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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg with gene and

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Chris in the power cast we've taken this

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episode aside from all the other

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episodes instead of having another guest

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I am Chris's guest he's my guest it's a

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talking shop kind of episode we haven't

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had one of those since 2011 and we find

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it's one of the most popular types of

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shows that we do and maybe it's because

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people build up a host of questions that

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maybe we didn't ask the guests or didn't

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talk about and now they get their chance

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to have at us and if we look at the

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forums at forum dr. Peric ascom they ask

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us everything about my experiences or

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lack thereof as a teenager what I would

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tell other teenagers who once again to

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UFOs after being in this business for so

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many years and having brought up a son

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what do I do but before we do that let's

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just talk about Chris because he has a

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motto on his Skype account trick or

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treat because he's the trickster and I

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asked him okay Chris you don't get

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visits from kids in your neighborhood

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because you live out in the country

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somewhere yeah it's it's pretty pretty

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bleak for the kids I think in this

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particular neighborhood I think what

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they do is they the parents take them to

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the subdivision that's a couple of miles

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away and all the houses are lined up you

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know close together so you get more bang

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for the buck for the time that you put

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in but yeah in three years I don't think

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I've had a single kid ever stopped at

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the house do you have candy around or

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what just in case yeah just in case of

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course well it's funny the last place I

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lived for about two or three years I

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lived in this large apartment complex

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lots of kids around but they never ever

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came to my place for trick-or-treat in

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the previous place another apartment

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complex

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we were visited by maybe one or two

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would show up where I live now

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in a subdivision there are loads of

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children that should store around the

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neighborhood I expect we'll be inundated

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or maybe they'll think that we're the

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Munsters or something and avoid us

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I wonder yeah well you you kind of look

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like lurch I bet you with some dark dark

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circles around your eyes some fangs

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maybe kind of paint in a widow's peak

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you probably scare the bejesus out of me

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it doesn't require any makeup I just

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walk out there and say would you like to

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have a bite to eat yeah I have to look

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at the right halloween' candy go to the

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neighborhood supermarket and see what I

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come up with this is not an invitation

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ladies and gentlemen for you to send

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your kids to my home for trick-or-treat

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please no well it's a fun night I've

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always liked Halloween I had a great

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time as a kid and you know if we had

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some mean neighbors or something of

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course they get they get tricked think

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one one year we we ordered pizzas from

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every delivery place in town and had

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them all arrived precisely at eight

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o'clock and so all these Pizza Delivery

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guys came with stacks of pizzas I know

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that's terrible and if those people ever

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wanted to get a real pizza from those

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places no it wouldn't happen well you

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know nowadays when you call for take-out

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they ask for your name they ask for your

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phone number yeah which is minimal

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verification but if you're just playing

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a practical joke on somebody you don't

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really know you wouldn't be able to tell

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yeah so it's not that easy the other

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thing is a lot of restaurants have was

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called curbside now where instead of

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delivering to your home you pull up your

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car they come up to the car with the

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goods well well that's that's cool it's

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not like an expensive restaurant these

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are normal family price restaurants that

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do that right so there you go why are we

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talking about pizza I don't know this is

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an episode where we talk shop and maybe

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we're talking about the pizza shop next

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time you come down

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Arizona will have a pizza together and

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not from you know like Domino's or pizza

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a real pizza place right except the

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pizza we ordered here it was a little

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overcooked so I don't know where you get

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good New York Pizza in the Phoenix area

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that's animation that was something we

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should talk about but really when we

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talk shop we talk about the show we talk

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about our plans or hopes of the future

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and we answer your questions and one of

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the things of course we've been talking

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about from time to time are the

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questions people ask about the number of

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commercials we run can't imagine how

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many people still don't quite understand

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this is a commercial radio show and if

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you look at thousands of commercial

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radio shows around the u.s. thousands of

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radio stations many talk stations with

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various conservative liberal and

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otherwise acts on there they all run

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a lot of the commercials on GCN are very

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short they're 15 seconds so there's more

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of them to fill that standard amount of

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time so it it seems psychologically like

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there's more time being devoted to

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commercials when actually it's short of

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commercials and more of them but it all

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adds up to the same standard boiler

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plated you know time slot for it for the

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commercial part of the program and we

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have a clock literally a network clock

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if they give us and they say you will

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have each segment timed out within a

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tenth of a second each hour we have four

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segments so the show when you hear in

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our regular radio station you're hearing

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minute news block plus ads okay so we

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have it mandated to fill a certain

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amount of time after which the

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commercial generation is automated so

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the first minutes ours so you'll hear me

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reading a commercial or Chris or

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something and those are products that

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advertise with us they pay us they help

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us eat sometimes they help us pay the

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rent sometimes but those are our

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commercials the other commercials you

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hear are from the network or local

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stations and we have no say in what they

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choose so for example if GCN wants to

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fifteen second commercials instead of 30

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in one minute that's their choice they

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make that choice but the number of

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lot what we tell people is we hope you

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will appreciate especially the ads from

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our sponsors because if you do business

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with them they do business with us and

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it's a mutual relationship if you don't

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fast forward folks right and I love the

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news go back thirty second button to

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because then you can quickly zip through

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seconds to tell you get to that to the

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have DirecTV I don't like the

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commercials I use their DVR to time

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that's how they I mean commercials

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capitalist free-market society and you

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consumerism and in order for us to be

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in America and you know we deal with it

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people because it seems like every every

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please well you know people who review

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us in iTunes say oh this show has so

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many commercials and they don't

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people who put on radio shows I mean it

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talking about content we're talking

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about audio quality and of course they

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have no ads now some try to sell ads for

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them that cater to podcasts and we get

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some ads from them and we get a couple

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of cents a month from that but there

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really isn't any business if you hope to

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earn any amount of money I'm a hard

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being crass and commercial that's the

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that way we'll have more to say on our

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neighbors here's what I believe I

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reading G Edward Griffin book the

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creature from Jekyll Island congressman

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we'd like to hear from you if you have a

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comment a question about the para caste

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sent it to news at the para caste calm

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that's news at the para caste calm and

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don't forget to visit our famous para

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para cast calm with gene and Chris on

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the power cast we're talking shop our

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2012 talk shop episode and we started up

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with the issue that a lot of people

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asked about the number of ads on the

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show as I said there's no model for

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decent advertising on podcasts except

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for very very few which are basically

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cousins or sisters or brothers of

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commercial radio shows now the other

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option is to charge for each episode and

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we've seen people try that and you can't

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get enough income because what you're

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doing here is you're turning off 99% of

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your audience because to be fair people

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can't afford to have to pay a dollar for

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this two dollars for that because it

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adds up after a while and it's a very

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discretionary purchase and I think

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people would rather have the commercials

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and not pay other people have asked us

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well why not have a premium version of

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the show without the commercials it is

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offered by some shows the gcn network

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won't do that they have made the

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decision that when you run a podcast or

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archived version of the show it will

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contain the same ads in fact they sell

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the ads on that basis when they sell ads

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to an advertiser they say it's gonna be

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the live broadcast the on-demand stream

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and the podcast version everyone who

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gets to listen to that show is gonna

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hear you're an unless they fast forward

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of course so we can't do it we'd like to

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because we've been talking about a

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premium version of para caste called

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para caste Pro but the real issue there

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in terms of a free version of the show

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is until the network changes their tune

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it doesn't happen the other possibility

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though with para cast Pro and let's move

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to that is having not outtakes because

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it really are an outtakes basically what

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you see is what you get except for some

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very minor shave and haircut just you

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know people say can I say that again we

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let them do it if they accidentally

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utter one of the seven deadly words we

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will cut that out I remember my first

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guest appearance on this

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I started getting a little controversial

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and I said well you don't have to use

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that if you don't want to and and you

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said oh no no we're definitely gonna be

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using that it's so I think we also said

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more of it keep it coming controversial

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yes yes

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we crave that yeah exactly well that's

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what the pair of cast is all about we

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let our hair down we hope to you know

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inspire our guests to be as out front

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and OnPoint as possible and tell it like

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it is and that's one of the I think one

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of the real I think real positive sort

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of forward things about the show that

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you don't find in some of the other of

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the top paranormal shows things tend to

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get a little sanitized and and people do

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tiptoe around a little bit not here not

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here in this kitchen boy sometimes that

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he really gets gets cooking in the

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kitchen here so that's one of the I

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think real positive elements about the

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show and and of course some of our

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guests that we try to get on or

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potential guests for that very reason

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don't really respond well we've had a

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number of invitations that have been

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outstanding and we've actually had

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people say okay I'll do it and then they

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get cold feet and and decide not to do

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it can you spell Whitley Strieber

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yes oh yeah i confronted whitley

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strieber in person at the UFO congress

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in arizona and i said come on whitley

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we're not gonna shoot you you know we're

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just talking and I reminded him that at

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one time I had a UFO oriented magazine

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and I exchanged ads with this communion

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foundation so he had to know me he said

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I didn't remember that

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okay well people forget me you know they

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see me and I just disappear into the

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mist I don't know

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I said look we will ask you reasonable

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responsible questions well the people in

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the forum's hate me I said well go to

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the forums and answer questions what's

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gonna happen we're not gonna bite if a

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person says they think you're full of

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stuff okay fine

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people are going to say that but if you

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have the courage of your convictions get

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out there and defend yourself not in a

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friendly environment well they'll ask

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the questions you posed like for example

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coast to coast but in a place where we

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will ask the questions we want and we

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have no agenda except just bring

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the facts and the information when a

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guest fails to be honest or shows their

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research is lacking like they do all

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their research on the internet like a

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certain person who was on the show

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recently to push a new book I'm gonna

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stop him for it and that's the other

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thing - it's like a double-edged sword

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if you don't push the guests enough they

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say you're being too nice if you do push

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the guests and you do encourage them to

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be honest and forthright if you do stop

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the filibuster or they're just going on

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on I say just stop for a moment and

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answer the question they say you're

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being rude so you can't win no no Jane

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you can't I think we do strike a good

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balance though I think the numbers in

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the the demographics do kind of bear

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that out I think there's a lot of people

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that are very interested in our approach

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the guests that we have the subjects we

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cover yeah every week I learn something

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it's one of the I think one of the real

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positive elements about this show is we

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are very selective about who we get on

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the show every show I learn something

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new from our guests and we do I think

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have a have a fairly even-handed

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approach we're not attack dogs we don't

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roll over and let our guests scratch our

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bellies as some shows do it's an

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educational process I think for our

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listeners and and I want to in every

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show I want to end the show and think to

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myself wow I didn't realize that or I

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didn't know that information I love to

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learn about these subjects that we cover

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and I think it's one of the real real

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good aspects and points about the power

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cast is the educational quality that we

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are able to bring our audience and I

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think our audience is responding where

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we're growing by leaps and bounds so the

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demographics are really constantly

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moving upwards so on the forums we're

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just constantly getting new new forum

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members signing up I think we're on the

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right track you know it's onwards and

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upwards gene now it's very interesting

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here to that and the last month or two

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we've really taken off the number of

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downloads of our podcast version of the

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show I'm not talking about ratings for

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the live version or the version that's

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available from the network GCN I'm

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talking about our server the amount of

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bandwidth we consume is doubled what it

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was two or three months ago

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Wow and that's very positive we also

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have a very high proportion of our

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listeners

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what they call the 25 to 49 demographic

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and that's where the advertisers pay

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close attention if you've got a lot of

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viewers or listeners there they will buy

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advertising and they'll pay premium

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prices for it but the point is here for

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us to do this kind of show we've got to

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reach as big an audience as possible

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because we have so many shows out there

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where they pander to their audience they

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don't care about providing factual

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information they don't care about

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investigative journalism they don't care

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about asking difficult questions they

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care about getting on a bunch of crazies

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and laying them talk already well if

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people ask me to describe the pair of

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cast who who are not familiar with the

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show and I ask them if they're familiar

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with coast-to-coast and I said we'll

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just imagine coast-to-coast is

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entertainment tonight the pair of cast

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is 60 minutes so I mean that's a

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distinction that I like to try to draw

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in people's minds who are interested in

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checking out the show and and I think

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that's pretty accurate we do enter into

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each episode well-prepared one of my

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goals in every episode is to ask a guest

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a question about their subject that they

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don't have the answer to and I'm able to

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supply the answer it's kind of an ego

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thing for me to know as much as possible

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about the subject that we're covering in

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the subject matter and in the future

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here we're going to be opening up the

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show and covering a wider range of

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paranormal phenomena we've already

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signed up some really interesting guests

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getting into near-death experience that

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subject we're gonna be getting into

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haunted sites and trans communication

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we're trying to open this up because the

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paranormal is not just UFOs it's not

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just cryptozoological mysteries is

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there's a whole wide variety of subjects

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that we'd really like to cover and and

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bring more of a wider range of subjects

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I think to the show which keeps it

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interesting and keeps it really

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educational I'll tell you what we'll get

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you more in a moment and answer your

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in to the para cast let me tell you what

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you're gonna hear stuff here that you

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probably won't hear anywhere else hear

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that George Noory

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talk shop 2012 where we talk about the

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show our goals our intent and again as I

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said we're not here to provide a crass

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commercial environment because I think

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if we pander to our audience we'd make a

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lot of money instead we're just getting

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by or less than getting by because maybe

671
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there's not a lot of money to be made in

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the UFO field or paranormal field I mean

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some people think you're on a UFO book

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and Chris knows this he's written

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several books about the paranormal you

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write a lot of these books and some

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people think well it's gonna be I'm a

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New York Times best seller list it's

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gonna be like Leslie Kane's book or some

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of the early titles from Whitley

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Strieber

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and 99.9% of all UFO books never earn

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out earn out means they earn more money

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than the mirror or pittance of our

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advance that your publisher pays you so

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we're talking about a few thousand

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dollars like for example one of the best

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books about UFOs and the culture of UFOs

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is shockingly close to the truth by the

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late Carl flock and of course my old

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friend Jim Mosely now that book I think

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they printed like 4,000 copies and maybe

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they sold half of them and they earn

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I'll tell you guys Jim is made they say

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got to share a total of $4,000 for all

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that work yeah I know it's it's sad

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especially in this day and age when more

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and more people get their information

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from the internet from the television

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from radio they don't read like they

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used to

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I'm a voracious reader I I've got four

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or five books going at any one given

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time and and I think it's really

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important that that people continue to

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read that they continue to expand their

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their awareness and and educate become

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educated about these subjects you can't

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trust the media to give you the

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unvarnished truth about things it's only

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when you you know read a book by

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somebody that spent

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for years researching and and and

714
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combing the archives for information or

715
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going out in the field and and putting

716
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some boots on the ground it's it's that

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type of source material I think that's

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that's most educational and one of the

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things that that we find is is that a

720
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lot of the shows out there really are

721
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going for the entertainment aspect of

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this and in the educational thing is

723
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almost secondary and and that's not what

724
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the pair cast is about where we try to

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be entertaining we we try to bring good

726
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guests on but but our function here is

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to educate people and to give them

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places to go to further their own

729
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research and do their own work if they

730
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want to know more it's a starting point

731
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and we try to make it more educational

732
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we try to have fun with our guests

733
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we try to inform a little bit now before

734
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we plan to do this talking shop episode

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we asked our listeners to pose their

736
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questions at forum dot the podcast calm

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and there are huge numbers of questions

738
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in there now people will come in there

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and they know just to ask one question

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they ask nine well speaking of questions

741
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:26,120
I've got a good one here from exo doc

742
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:29,510
which he wants to know a little bit more

743
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:31,850
about the actual production of the show

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00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:34,640
and he he says how does the behind the

745
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scenes my mechanics of the show work I

746
00:30:41,410 --> 00:30:39,890
mean when you have a guest you guys sit

747
00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:41,420
around in a living room with a computer

748
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and a drink in hand having a conference

749
00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:45,950
call or do you have a studio and that

750
00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:47,900
sounds like fun especially with a drink

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in your hand and sitting on a couch and

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maybe have laughingly or Mike's you know

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the ones that you have kind of a cord

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that wraps around your neck that would

755
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be perfect that would be ideal that

756
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:00,260
would be so much fun unfortunately XO

757
00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:03,890
doc no we don't I'm sitting at my desk

758
00:31:12,190 --> 00:31:10,040
in Camp Verde Arizona I've got my uh my

759
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:12,200
fuzzy slippers on

760
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:16,010
have them comb my hair I have a cup of

761
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:19,010
coffee here that's usually we do the

762
00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:21,050
show in the morning so we're nice and

763
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:23,240
frosty so drink in hand usually is

764
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:27,230
coffee to keep the energy level up but

765
00:31:31,780 --> 00:31:28,910
just so you know I don't drink at all

766
00:31:34,210 --> 00:31:31,790
I'm kind of boring that way I welcome to

767
00:31:35,620 --> 00:31:34,220
this we do this show remotely gene and I

768
00:31:38,110 --> 00:31:35,630
have only actually been in the same room

769
00:31:41,289 --> 00:31:38,120
and done I think four or five shows

770
00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:41,299
total out of all the 150 or so shows

771
00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:42,740
that we've done together maybe four or

772
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:44,360
five of them we've actually been in the

773
00:31:48,850 --> 00:31:46,330
same room and that's always fun for us

774
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,860
but in this particular occasion I am

775
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:50,960
seated at a computer desk that's 20

776
00:31:56,049 --> 00:31:54,410
years old okay and I have a mini

777
00:32:00,640 --> 00:31:56,059
recording studio with a mixer and a

778
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:00,650
studio mic I have a 27 inch iMac as a

779
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:03,650
computer with software that is stripping

780
00:32:08,110 --> 00:32:06,320
the sound and the audio off Skype and

781
00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:08,120
mixing it with the sound off my

782
00:32:13,570 --> 00:32:12,169
microphone now we can tell you the brand

783
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:13,580
name of the equipment it doesn't matter

784
00:32:18,460 --> 00:32:15,530
the point is here is I don't see Chris

785
00:32:20,260 --> 00:32:18,470
except his picture in the Skype window

786
00:32:21,549 --> 00:32:20,270
I don't include a picture most of the

787
00:32:24,130 --> 00:32:21,559
time because I don't want to frighten my

788
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:24,140
listeners to death or my guests hey I've

789
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:26,120
done a few shows when it was really hot

790
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:33,650
in my underwear Oh much information okay

791
00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:36,290
too much I very rarely do anything in my

792
00:32:41,890 --> 00:32:40,190
underwear except sleep but no I've

793
00:32:43,630 --> 00:32:41,900
sometimes like in the evening if you do

794
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:43,640
a show I'll be ready to go to bed right

795
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:46,250
after the show so then I'll be sitting

796
00:32:51,250 --> 00:32:47,450
here in my underwear but don't imagine

797
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:51,260
that because I turn the webcam off so

798
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:54,650
nobody sees what I really look like okay

799
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:56,630
I have another question from exo doc Oh

800
00:33:01,720 --> 00:32:58,730
while we're on this subject and this is

801
00:33:03,549 --> 00:33:01,730
interesting I like this I don't know if

802
00:33:05,620 --> 00:33:03,559
this idea has been brought up before on

803
00:33:08,770 --> 00:33:05,630
the podcast but I would like to try an

804
00:33:10,930 --> 00:33:08,780
experiment involving asking aliens /

805
00:33:13,810 --> 00:33:10,940
ulta terrestrial / interdimensional x'

806
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:13,820
that may be monitoring the internet to

807
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:16,910
contact us here on the web site or I'd

808
00:33:21,340 --> 00:33:19,130
be willing to act as a sacrificial goat

809
00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:21,350
and contact me or any of the other

810
00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:23,390
volunteers here directly what do you

811
00:33:30,580 --> 00:33:26,900
think - tinfoil hadded not the para

812
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castile and then he goes on to say

813
00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:32,929
something about Steven Greer is doing

814
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,900
something like that but I don't I'm not

815
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:37,760
sure about that so what do you think

816
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:40,820
Jane should we put out a name

817
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,440
to any of our paranormal friends out

818
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:47,600
there who might be monitoring our show

819
00:33:53,259 --> 00:33:51,440
to let their presence be known and you

820
00:33:58,509 --> 00:33:53,269
know I mean coast to coast has their

821
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:58,519
time traveler line and and there they

822
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:00,799
have some other crazy phone lines that

823
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:04,159
they tout from time to time let's let's

824
00:34:17,579 --> 00:34:06,289
put the request out there come on come

825
00:34:25,930 --> 00:34:20,770
you know let your presence be known but

826
00:34:27,730 --> 00:34:25,940
I have to give you Chris's address not

827
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:27,740
my address I live in a top-secret

828
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,290
location near Phoenix Arizona I don't

829
00:34:34,379 --> 00:34:32,839
want anyone coming here but Chris being

830
00:34:38,770 --> 00:34:34,389
the trickster he can handle it

831
00:34:41,409 --> 00:34:38,780
you volunteer right okay I don't know

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00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:41,419
about that I'd rather have somebody come

833
00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:45,169
on the forums and or something come on

834
00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:46,790
the forums but you're gonna have to

835
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prove your bona fides in order for us to

836
00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:52,069
take you seriously so so let that be a

837
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warning to any potential tricksters and

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00:34:59,020 --> 00:34:57,170
hoaxsters out there they want to pretend

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like they're a time-travelling John

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tighters or some of these crazy people

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that you hear on some of these shows

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there was a guy who call up on coast to

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coast saying that he was Jim Morrison

844
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that at the age of 27 Jim Morrison did

845
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not die in a bathtub he just left the

846
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scene and he's still there you know he's

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a horse rancher in Oregon if I remember

848
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correct yeah not a bus driver in

849
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Brooklyn there was rumors going around

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that Oliver Stone's movie The Doors

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actually when they had the scenes of

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more sand from the shoulders down

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reading poetry drinking a bottle of

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Bushmills there was rumors that that was

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actually the real Jim Morrison and if

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you look carefully in that no scenes the

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engineer behind the glass is is I think

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robby krieger or john densmore that

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either the drummer the guitar player

860
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actually plays the engineer and those

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scenes so a little bit of cinema trivia

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for you a few doors and uh Oliver Stone

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fans right of course we can't believe

864
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any of that but if Jim Morrison wants to

865
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call he can call us on skype I'll

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happily talk with him but you have to

867
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take a DNA test no we don't have DNA

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tests for the original when I was on a

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podcast please okay so people now going

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to write their reviews for iTunes and

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say well the power cast has jumped the

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shark they are now asking Jim Morrison

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if he's still alive to call in on the

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show and have a conversation about good

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old-fashioned rock and roll rock and

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985
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roll you played good old time rock and

986
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roll didn't you Chris O'Brien for many

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years I was a gigging keyboard player

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had one of the top pop metal bands and

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in the Rocky Mountain States we played

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over 300 covers we did hard song Zappa

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Kansas yes

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Steely Dan we didn't do the easy sort of

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you know only ZZ Top and BTO and that

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sort of thing rolling stones we actually

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bit off some very difficult songs which

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we actually became notorious for being

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able to pull some of those with those

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more difficult Tunes out and we cut an

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album fell into a bad management deal

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the the band broke up but yeah I was out

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there as a beer pusher you know I'm

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playing from Casper Wyoming to

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Albuquerque in and you know I put

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300,000 miles on my truck in six years

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gigging and investigating so yeah I was

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all over the map there and it's

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unfortunate about the management that's

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something that always causes a problem

1009
00:42:32,809 --> 00:42:29,549
or it is for example in that movie the

1010
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thing you do the Tom Hanks movie where

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they talk about this BAM that has this

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one hit and they can never make the

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second hit the one-hit wonders they call

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them the wonders and the key there was

1015
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that they broke up because of egos the

1016
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clash of egos after the first hit record

1017
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:51,750
the clash of egos does them in that's

1018
00:42:57,970 --> 00:42:54,930
Hank Oh another question please okay

1019
00:43:01,519 --> 00:42:57,980
since we're on XO docks

1020
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,529
you know thread here or his list of

1021
00:43:06,769 --> 00:43:04,319
questions will will continue if you had

1022
00:43:09,410 --> 00:43:06,779
to pick one specific paranormal event

1023
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,420
gene and I'll answer this after you're

1024
00:43:14,579 --> 00:43:12,400
done or barring one that

1025
00:43:16,979 --> 00:43:14,589
pick one specific area of the paranormal

1026
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:16,989
what really intrigued you or you find

1027
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:19,210
endlessly fascinating and what would

1028
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:20,249
that be and why

1029
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:23,680
before we asked that question we talked

1030
00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:30,249
about Tom Hanks before his father was

1031
00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:34,329
the lead singer of a group in the 1950s

1032
00:43:38,459 --> 00:43:36,460
called The Diamonds with a super hit

1033
00:43:41,459 --> 00:43:38,469
called little darlin kind of a one-hit

1034
00:43:47,269 --> 00:43:41,469
wonder kind of group band and that was

1035
00:43:50,430 --> 00:43:47,279
Tom Hanks dead Wow and look that's why I

1036
00:43:53,549 --> 00:43:50,440
guess that influenced him to make this

1037
00:43:56,009 --> 00:43:53,559
this movie the thing that you do I've

1038
00:43:58,829 --> 00:43:56,019
never seen that now I gotta go Netflix I

1039
00:44:01,079 --> 00:43:58,839
just looked it up here it says if you

1040
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were alive in 1957 and old enough to

1041
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enjoy rock and roll you'll probably

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remember the group The Diamonds who had

1043
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just launched their super hit little

1044
00:44:14,219 --> 00:44:11,640
darlin okay hmm and that's it

1045
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:14,229
well I told you I learned something

1046
00:44:21,329 --> 00:44:16,210
every show right

1047
00:44:23,459 --> 00:44:21,339
his father was a mistakes a Miss Hanks

1048
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:23,469
huh that's a rock and roll name if I

1049
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:26,140
ever heard right yeah sounds like an old

1050
00:44:30,029 --> 00:44:28,930
blues guy from Mississippi I was kind of

1051
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:30,039
I guess straight ahead rock and roll

1052
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:33,130
song let's go back to the question yeah

1053
00:44:37,769 --> 00:44:35,170
so if you had to pick one specific

1054
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paranormal event or an area of the

1055
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:39,579
paranormal that really intrigues you

1056
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:40,930
gene or you fall and endlessly

1057
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:42,839
fascinating what would it be and why

1058
00:44:49,709 --> 00:44:46,420
well it comes out to be maybe window

1059
00:44:51,390 --> 00:44:49,719
areas okay the reason the window areas

1060
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:51,400
is maybe because I have written a

1061
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science fiction and I like science

1062
00:44:58,410 --> 00:44:55,450
fiction and the concept of alternate

1063
00:45:00,239 --> 00:44:58,420
realities intrigues me the ability to

1064
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just go from one place to another in the

1065
00:45:03,209 --> 00:45:00,999
wink of an eye

1066
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:03,219
because I think you know the job of

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getting to another star system unless we

1068
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have warp drive is going to be difficult

1069
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:09,160
it's not going to happen in my lifetime

1070
00:45:15,479 --> 00:45:12,249
I accept that unless I live to you know

1071
00:45:19,019 --> 00:45:15,489
like a 125 years or something but with

1072
00:45:21,269 --> 00:45:19,029
the ability to just wink in and wink out

1073
00:45:22,709 --> 00:45:21,279
of another reality a parallel place or

1074
00:45:25,650 --> 00:45:22,719
use the Stargate

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I love the stargate sg1 TV shows and

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some of the

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spin-off shows because of the concept

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where you have this one place where you

1079
00:45:35,549 --> 00:45:33,549
walk into this liquidy place and

1080
00:45:38,269 --> 00:45:35,559
suddenly you're in another star system

1081
00:45:40,829 --> 00:45:38,279
you know a hundred light years away that

1082
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:40,839
intrigues me especially if there is a

1083
00:45:45,779 --> 00:45:43,690
reality to it if we are seeing creatures

1084
00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:45,789
coming from another reality if we're

1085
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:48,430
seeing UFOs and other stuff coming from

1086
00:45:53,099 --> 00:45:50,950
another reality and what about ghosts

1087
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,109
are ghosts really the spirits of dead

1088
00:45:59,039 --> 00:45:55,920
people or are we seeing after images of

1089
00:46:01,339 --> 00:45:59,049
your counterpart and met other reality

1090
00:46:03,859 --> 00:46:01,349
or your grandfather's counterpart or

1091
00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:03,869
somebody who lived a thousand years ago

1092
00:46:08,670 --> 00:46:06,700
yeah well I would agree that is

1093
00:46:10,859 --> 00:46:08,680
definitely up high up on my list I've

1094
00:46:13,130 --> 00:46:10,869
I've actually become very intrigued over

1095
00:46:18,259 --> 00:46:13,140
the years in attempting to identify

1096
00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:18,269
exact locations where a lot of this

1097
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:21,460
bewildering variety of paranormal

1098
00:46:28,499 --> 00:46:25,210
reports tend to be centered and that is

1099
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:28,509
been that has been on on the top of my

1100
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:31,599
list as an investigator but the one

1101
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:33,430
thing that really intrigues me is the

1102
00:46:38,430 --> 00:46:35,890
the unexplained livestock death

1103
00:46:41,870 --> 00:46:38,440
phenomenon I I must say that that this

1104
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:41,880
is a this is something that is endlessly

1105
00:46:47,609 --> 00:46:44,890
horrific in one sense but but

1106
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:47,619
fascinating because we have thousands of

1107
00:46:52,769 --> 00:46:50,529
pounds of physical evidence and that is

1108
00:46:57,660 --> 00:46:52,779
very rare in the paranormal to have

1109
00:47:00,180 --> 00:46:57,670
physical evidence as routinely as you

1110
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:00,190
find in the livestock death phenomena

1111
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:02,710
and so I think those two would probably

1112
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:07,690
be my most fascinating subjects or

1113
00:47:13,259 --> 00:47:09,970
elements in the paranormal of course my

1114
00:47:16,109 --> 00:47:13,269
own experience as a younger very young

1115
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:16,119
child at seven which there's a question

1116
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:19,210
I think that asks me about that that

1117
00:47:23,489 --> 00:47:21,910
will will maybe go into later but other

1118
00:47:26,009 --> 00:47:23,499
than my own personal experience as a

1119
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:26,019
child those other two areas the window

1120
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:30,960
portal areas gateway and the bewildering

1121
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:33,609
livestock desks those are the two areas

1122
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:35,710
in intrigued me the most if I had to

1123
00:47:41,999 --> 00:47:40,089
pick my favorite case it would probably

1124
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:42,009
the skinwalker ranch or a Sherman ranch

1125
00:47:47,429 --> 00:47:45,130
case that that of course we've we've

1126
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,439
discussed many times in fact a number of

1127
00:47:52,259 --> 00:47:49,359
episodes ago we had a whole roundtable

1128
00:47:54,809 --> 00:47:52,269
that covered that and that is a very

1129
00:47:57,299 --> 00:47:54,819
very intriguing case and and that would

1130
00:48:00,359 --> 00:47:57,309
have to be up there on my on the top of

1131
00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:00,369
my all-time favorite or most perplexing

1132
00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:04,839
case but that's my answer and I'm

1133
00:48:08,759 --> 00:48:07,180
sticking to a gene okay I might change

1134
00:48:10,650 --> 00:48:08,769
my answer next week if you ask me again

1135
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:10,660
but seriously speaking we do our

1136
00:48:14,219 --> 00:48:12,910
research in the power cast as Chris was

1137
00:48:17,939 --> 00:48:14,229
talking about I did some more research

1138
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:17,949
on Tom Hanks dad daddy Amos and looks

1139
00:48:24,269 --> 00:48:21,609
now that there is a denial that his dad

1140
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:24,279
was the lead singer of the diamonds his

1141
00:48:31,339 --> 00:48:27,849
dad was itinerant cook who spent his

1142
00:48:36,329 --> 00:48:31,349
entire life in the restaurant business

1143
00:48:40,739 --> 00:48:36,339
that's the internet for you that's it so

1144
00:48:41,489 --> 00:48:40,749
now you know the rest of the story or

1145
00:48:44,099 --> 00:48:41,499
maybe not

1146
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:44,109
let's hear another question well this is

1147
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:46,209
a XO Doc's last question here I'm

1148
00:48:51,959 --> 00:48:48,609
reading them out of order but I know

1149
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:51,969
Chris attends so-called UFO cons snicker

1150
00:48:56,939 --> 00:48:55,119
but how often do you guys attend events

1151
00:49:00,449 --> 00:48:56,949
like that UFO conferences paranormal

1152
00:49:02,489 --> 00:49:00,459
conferences etc and are there any that

1153
00:49:04,769 --> 00:49:02,499
you might recommend gene well you know

1154
00:49:06,509 --> 00:49:04,779
what the UFO Congress is the only one

1155
00:49:09,390 --> 00:49:06,519
I've attended recently and I thought it

1156
00:49:11,579 --> 00:49:09,400
was okay I think the problem there is

1157
00:49:14,429 --> 00:49:11,589
sometimes they get guests or guest

1158
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:14,439
speakers who are not properly vetted and

1159
00:49:18,359 --> 00:49:16,390
maybe it's because you want a variety of

1160
00:49:20,249 --> 00:49:18,369
guests to bring in the crowd I mean it

1161
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:20,259
costs a lot of money we'll have time a

1162
00:49:26,009 --> 00:49:23,650
lot of energy to sponsor a UFO event and

1163
00:49:27,569 --> 00:49:26,019
maybe you're a bit more liberal about

1164
00:49:28,979 --> 00:49:27,579
the kind of guests to accept because you

1165
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:28,989
want to bring in the crowds even MUFON

1166
00:49:33,749 --> 00:49:30,729
is doing that now I have to tell you

1167
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:33,759
this in the early days I attended every

1168
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:36,910
UFO convention I could get to I helped

1169
00:49:44,910 --> 00:49:40,089
Jim Mosely run some UFO related events I

1170
00:49:47,339 --> 00:49:44,920
ran a UFO convention back in 1975 I

1171
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:47,349
believe in Valley Forge Pennsylvania and

1172
00:49:51,509 --> 00:49:49,089
what I remember is we had some really

1173
00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:51,519
good guests we had a lot of fun and we

1174
00:49:55,790 --> 00:49:53,430
lost about $105

1175
00:49:57,950 --> 00:49:55,800
so there was no way to really bring him

1176
00:49:59,060 --> 00:49:57,960
the kind of crowds he wanted and that

1177
00:50:01,360 --> 00:49:59,070
was a time we were starting a new

1178
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:01,370
business my business partner and I and

1179
00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:05,370
we had hoped for every single dime to

1180
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:06,750
keep us going

1181
00:50:13,070 --> 00:50:11,130
so in 1975 a hundred bucks was what like

1182
00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:13,080
five hundred dollars today it wasn't a

1183
00:50:17,690 --> 00:50:15,660
small figure I hate to relate this to

1184
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:17,700
money but the problem is here unless

1185
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:20,130
you're independently wealthy as Jim

1186
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:22,020
Mosley once was he doesn't have the

1187
00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:23,910
amount of money now that he did then you

1188
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:25,740
can't afford to run these things unless

1189
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:29,490
you would least cover your expenses no

1190
00:50:35,090 --> 00:50:31,110
otherwise it's not worth it otherwise

1191
00:50:39,260 --> 00:50:35,100
it's just a hobby yeah I agree I I was

1192
00:50:41,570 --> 00:50:39,270
impressed I must say with the first UFO

1193
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:41,580
Congress back two years ago when it when

1194
00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:44,250
it moved to to Scottsdale I thought they

1195
00:50:50,450 --> 00:50:46,950
had a fantastic lineup they did a great

1196
00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:50,460
job selecting the speakers and putting

1197
00:50:56,990 --> 00:50:53,190
on the event and I got into a bit of

1198
00:50:59,900 --> 00:50:57,000
trouble with my editorializing last year

1199
00:51:01,970 --> 00:50:59,910
or in this last conference at the UFO

1200
00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:01,980
Congress because I felt that the quality

1201
00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:04,020
of these speakers went way downhill I

1202
00:51:09,530 --> 00:51:06,540
did get quite a bit of flack from the

1203
00:51:11,420 --> 00:51:09,540
organizers about that and I will

1204
00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:11,430
probably never be invited to speak there

1205
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:14,460
as a result which to me is ridiculous

1206
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:17,250
because the privately several principles

1207
00:51:21,830 --> 00:51:19,200
they're at at open minds did agree with

1208
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,840
me in my in my observations they just

1209
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:23,040
said that it was not politically correct

1210
00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:26,720
for me to to say that and now

1211
00:51:32,210 --> 00:51:29,630
politically incorrect Chris O'Brien

1212
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politically incorrect gene Steinberg

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1237
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1238
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1239
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1240
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1241
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welcome back to the para cast the gold

1275
00:54:13,340 --> 00:54:04,460
standard of paranormal radio and now

1276
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:13,350
here's Jean Steinberg part two of three

1277
00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:16,650
parts of shop Talk 2012 with Jean and

1278
00:54:21,860 --> 00:54:18,750
Chris Chris is telling you about having

1279
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:21,870
a run-in with the people who run open

1280
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:25,470
minds M the UFO Congress I had a bit of

1281
00:54:30,110 --> 00:54:28,800
a run into there because I expected my

1282
00:54:31,310 --> 00:54:30,120
press credentials and they said well

1283
00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:31,320
you're supposed to have gone on this

1284
00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:33,510
website and done this a week ago and I

1285
00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:35,670
said how do I know that how am I

1286
00:54:39,950 --> 00:54:38,040
supposed to know that you have my email

1287
00:54:42,650 --> 00:54:39,960
address I didn't hear that and they

1288
00:54:45,290 --> 00:54:42,660
reluctantly agreed to grant me Press

1289
00:54:46,430 --> 00:54:45,300
Pass but that was really screwy yeah I

1290
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:46,440
thought you know they were being a

1291
00:54:52,130 --> 00:54:50,250
little bit obnoxious in answering me

1292
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:52,140
that way instead of saying well we

1293
00:54:56,990 --> 00:54:53,970
understand their you don't know by

1294
00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:57,000
mental telepathy to go on the site find

1295
00:55:02,660 --> 00:54:59,400
the proper drop down menu and ask for

1296
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:02,670
your press credentials no I don't think

1297
00:55:06,890 --> 00:55:04,890
they'll be giving me that this year I

1298
00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:06,900
have a feeling they'll be sending us a

1299
00:55:10,550 --> 00:55:09,480
bill or charging us double yeah that

1300
00:55:15,530 --> 00:55:10,560
we've mentioned it on the show

1301
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:15,540
it'll be triple yeah well I again I I

1302
00:55:20,660 --> 00:55:17,850
really think that they are doing a good

1303
00:55:23,390 --> 00:55:20,670
job there I think they've they've made

1304
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:23,400
some changes there which I hope will be

1305
00:55:28,550 --> 00:55:26,250
reflected in a positive way with their

1306
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:28,560
speaker selection and upcoming

1307
00:55:32,570 --> 00:55:31,170
congress's and and I really do

1308
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:32,580
appreciate the job they're doing there

1309
00:55:37,940 --> 00:55:34,710
and I do recommend that particular

1310
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:37,950
conference MUFON has gone way downhill

1311
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:40,710
over the past number of years back in

1312
00:55:44,810 --> 00:55:43,280
the 90s I think it was a very very good

1313
00:55:49,460 --> 00:55:44,820
conference to go to

1314
00:55:52,190 --> 00:55:49,470
I went to the one last summer with the

1315
00:55:54,260 --> 00:55:52,200
summer before last actually and and it

1316
00:55:57,020 --> 00:55:54,270
was okay but there were still you know

1317
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:57,030
some real questionable presenters in my

1318
00:56:02,330 --> 00:55:59,040
mind of course I am a little a little

1319
00:56:04,790 --> 00:56:02,340
hyper critical at times but you know

1320
00:56:07,970 --> 00:56:04,800
that's that's just the me I'm you know

1321
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:07,980
I'm just that way moving along here Jean

1322
00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:08,970
this

1323
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:10,619
some Blowfish of course who's one of our

1324
00:56:16,940 --> 00:56:14,970
longest posters he wants to know what

1325
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:16,950
kind of music that we both listen to

1326
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:19,680
what what do you listen to you mostly

1327
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:24,240
listen to talk radio and sure you know I

1328
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:26,490
have the Beatles I still listen to after

1329
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:28,650
all these years because I remember

1330
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:30,300
working in commercial radio back in the

1331
00:56:34,990 --> 00:56:33,569
60s and around 1970 I guess when the

1332
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Beatles announced their breakup I

1333
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:38,010
remember when the White Album came out I

1334
00:56:41,660 --> 00:56:39,450
was working at a small radio station

1335
00:56:45,380 --> 00:56:41,670
real young guy I met that old

1336
00:56:47,660 --> 00:56:45,390
in Vermont and the program director in

1337
00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:47,670
the next room the production room was

1338
00:56:51,770 --> 00:56:50,280
auditioning the White Album so he played

1339
00:56:55,579 --> 00:56:51,780
it and I listened through the intercom

1340
00:56:57,319 --> 00:56:55,589
so as I was spinning records Saturday

1341
00:56:58,849 --> 00:56:57,329
morning I wasn't listening to the

1342
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,859
records except to monitor the beginning

1343
00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:00,480
an end and to run a commercial or make a

1344
00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:02,430
quick announcement I was listening to

1345
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,220
the White Album and he'd mark um the

1346
00:57:10,339 --> 00:57:08,640
physical LP what we could play what we

1347
00:57:11,780 --> 00:57:10,349
couldn't based on the content or

1348
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:11,790
something like that like happiness is a

1349
00:57:19,099 --> 00:57:14,609
warm gun he wouldn't let us do okay I

1350
00:57:19,940 --> 00:57:19,109
like Pink Floyd my son who is now 26

1351
00:57:22,460 --> 00:57:19,950
years of age

1352
00:57:24,770 --> 00:57:22,470
he loves the old time rock and roll or

1353
00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:24,780
the sixties seventies classic rock and

1354
00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:27,900
roll I think music today is too

1355
00:57:32,329 --> 00:57:30,329
corporate as a result I don't like it

1356
00:57:33,980 --> 00:57:32,339
near as much because everything sounds

1357
00:57:35,690 --> 00:57:33,990
the same the same level of

1358
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,700
overproduction everything sounds the

1359
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:37,680
same on the other hand to show you I'm

1360
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:39,450
not consistent in my musical tastes

1361
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:40,770
Adele

1362
00:57:46,339 --> 00:57:42,930
Grammy award-winning young artists from

1363
00:57:50,059 --> 00:57:46,349
Great Britain she sings the theme song

1364
00:57:53,420 --> 00:57:50,069
of the new James Bond movie Skyfall and

1365
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:53,430
that is probably one of the best James

1366
00:57:57,260 --> 00:57:55,290
Bond themes ever even compared to the

1367
00:57:59,960 --> 00:57:57,270
ones originally by Shirley Bassey and

1368
00:58:04,880 --> 00:57:59,970
Carly Simon so there you go eclectic

1369
00:58:09,020 --> 00:58:04,890
tastes my wife sings country rock well

1370
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:09,030
right now in my CD player I have the new

1371
00:58:13,849 --> 00:58:11,010
Joe Walsh album which I highly recommend

1372
00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:13,859
called analogue man probably one of the

1373
00:58:16,790 --> 00:58:15,990
best albums I think he's ever done has a

1374
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:16,800
solo artist

1375
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:19,680
I have Bonnie Raitt turn of the cards I

1376
00:58:26,970 --> 00:58:22,810
have the Peter Gabriel album

1377
00:58:30,030 --> 00:58:26,980
that he's done recently with no guitars

1378
00:58:32,790 --> 00:58:30,040
no drums it's a full orchestra I've

1379
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:32,800
always been a progressive English art

1380
00:58:41,130 --> 00:58:36,850
rock fan Genesis Pink Floyd yes

1381
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:41,140
Jethro Tull Henry kow I could rattle off

1382
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:43,930
a list of obscure progressive rock bands

1383
00:58:48,210 --> 00:58:46,090
from the 70s always been a big Peter

1384
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:48,220
Gabriel fan I listen to all kinds of

1385
00:58:54,750 --> 00:58:51,760
music I listen to jazz classical I of

1386
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:54,760
course I record my own music so at times

1387
00:59:00,180 --> 00:58:56,770
I am forced to listen to my own stuff

1388
00:59:01,830 --> 00:59:00,190
when I'm when I'm recording so a good

1389
00:59:04,290 --> 00:59:01,840
question though I you know I I

1390
00:59:07,050 --> 00:59:04,300
appreciate all music except overly whiny

1391
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:07,060
traditional country and bad Italian

1392
00:59:11,940 --> 00:59:09,370
opera pretty much everything else I

1393
00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:11,950
enjoy how about your favorite sci-fi

1394
00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:15,670
book in your worst UFO book okay

1395
00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:19,270
favorite sci-fi book correct okay what

1396
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:22,030
is he I'm kind of prejudiced here my son

1397
00:59:26,070 --> 00:59:23,650
and I have written three science fiction

1398
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:26,080
novels of which the second is going into

1399
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:29,170
print in the next week isolations it's

1400
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:31,210
attack of the rock OIG's Rock woods to

1401
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:33,040
the coming of the protectors is a third

1402
00:59:37,620 --> 00:59:35,290
volume is still under production in

1403
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:37,630
terms of regular science fiction I grew

1404
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:40,240
up reading Edgar Rice Burroughs and you

1405
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:41,770
don't think of Edgar Rice Burroughs is a

1406
00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:43,750
science fiction writer because of Tarzan

1407
00:59:48,330 --> 00:59:46,390
although Tarzan had fantasy and science

1408
00:59:50,970 --> 00:59:48,340
fiction elements you think of John

1409
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:50,980
Carter and I mentioned John Carter it's

1410
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:52,810
because I read all the John Carter of

1411
00:59:57,660 --> 00:59:55,510
Mars books and then saw the movie make

1412
01:00:00,360 --> 00:59:57,670
remake of the story the first time they

1413
01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:00,370
try to do this in a movie and Disney had

1414
01:00:06,770 --> 01:00:03,430
this high budget movie really well done

1415
01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:06,780
not a bad movie but the marketing sucked

1416
01:00:10,830 --> 01:00:09,100
because you have to look at John Carter

1417
01:00:15,150 --> 01:00:10,840
as a character and the kind of adventure

1418
01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:15,160
involved John Carter predates avatar you

1419
01:00:22,740 --> 01:00:18,790
nerds the it's like the Pocahontas story

1420
01:00:26,430 --> 01:00:22,750
you know John Carter predates avatar I

1421
01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:26,440
think it was really badly cast myself it

1422
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,030
I think they want to play dejah thoris

1423
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:30,640
who is the Martian princess was not a

1424
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:33,210
great actress john carter was okay i

1425
01:00:39,540 --> 01:00:36,690
thought i think it was miscast myself

1426
01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:39,550
okay I mean I like the special effects

1427
01:00:44,790 --> 01:00:42,070
and they did a good job compressing

1428
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:44,800
several books into one movie but they

1429
01:00:47,940 --> 01:00:46,480
did leave a lot of I think crucial

1430
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:47,950
elements out but the casting I thought

1431
01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:51,730
was was was not well done that's my

1432
01:00:55,740 --> 01:00:52,270
opinion

1433
01:00:59,130 --> 01:00:55,750
well how about worst UFO book words Oh

1434
01:01:01,680 --> 01:00:59,140
any okay it was a book once that came

1435
01:01:04,410 --> 01:01:01,690
out called behold the venus garuda i

1436
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:04,420
don't remember who wrote it it sounds

1437
01:01:10,020 --> 01:01:07,090
rather obscene and that was as bad a

1438
01:01:11,970 --> 01:01:10,030
book as i can imagine i think part of it

1439
01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:11,980
is also and I've seen some current books

1440
01:01:17,070 --> 01:01:13,480
that I thought weren't as good as they

1441
01:01:19,610 --> 01:01:17,080
could have been is that nowadays anybody

1442
01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:19,620
can publish a book free of charge or

1443
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:21,760
almost free of charge you go to a place

1444
01:01:26,070 --> 01:01:23,890
like create space which is run by Amazon

1445
01:01:28,980 --> 01:01:26,080
you upload your content you upload your

1446
01:01:30,540 --> 01:01:28,990
cover you publish it free of charge you

1447
01:01:33,390 --> 01:01:30,550
have another site called the book patch

1448
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:33,400
and I mentioned the book patch because

1449
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:36,400
it's run by a guy as an artist now who

1450
01:01:43,530 --> 01:01:40,000
used to be a Mossad agent in Israel I'm

1451
01:01:46,590 --> 01:01:43,540
serious Wow and Viktor Ostrovsky his

1452
01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:46,600
name is and with that organization to

1453
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:49,630
book patch you could prepare a book free

1454
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:51,520
of charge and the old days people have

1455
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:52,960
their mimeograph machines or they're

1456
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,850
cheap offset machines or the copying

1457
01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:57,280
machines and they publish books it's

1458
01:02:01,710 --> 01:01:59,170
very easy the price of admission is very

1459
01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:01,720
easy but just because you can get a book

1460
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:03,430
out there real easily just like you can

1461
01:02:06,990 --> 01:02:04,720
make a radio show you become a radio

1462
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:07,000
broadcaster with a $50 mic and a

1463
01:02:12,990 --> 01:02:09,910
personal computer or even probably an

1464
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:13,000
iPad the fact that the price admission

1465
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:16,090
is cheap doesn't mean you have skimp on

1466
01:02:21,690 --> 01:02:18,930
quality you still have to have the books

1467
01:02:24,510 --> 01:02:21,700
properly and efficiently edited and

1468
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:24,520
that's a big problem so part of the

1469
01:02:30,180 --> 01:02:26,650
problem here that has to be resolved is

1470
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:30,190
that people have to realize that yes

1471
01:02:36,450 --> 01:02:32,050
it's great to be able to publish a book

1472
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:36,460
cheaply but you need to realize what you

1473
01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:38,530
can't do and the first thing you can't

1474
01:02:43,620 --> 01:02:40,990
do is probably edit your own content so

1475
01:02:46,110 --> 01:02:43,630
even if you publish your own book you

1476
01:02:48,450 --> 01:02:46,120
should seek outside editing if you can

1477
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:48,460
afford to spend the time to write that

1478
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:49,410
book you think

1479
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:50,970
marriage and you don't want to go

1480
01:02:54,260 --> 01:02:52,290
through the traditional publishing

1481
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:54,270
system oh maybe you don't think they

1482
01:03:00,680 --> 01:02:57,450
care about it I don't know go hire an

1483
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:00,690
editor some independent party spend a

1484
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:02,730
little bit of money have them review

1485
01:03:06,860 --> 01:03:04,650
your manuscript and tell you what's

1486
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:06,870
wrong with it I'll tell you how to fix

1487
01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:09,420
it it's worth the expense because if you

1488
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:11,910
want to sell a book or at least get your

1489
01:03:17,390 --> 01:03:14,400
message across to the widest number of

1490
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:17,400
people it has to be readable and I'll

1491
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:19,200
give you an example of a book that

1492
01:03:23,330 --> 01:03:21,330
really needed editing and that is the

1493
01:03:27,980 --> 01:03:23,340
one by Scott and Suzanne Ramsey on the

1494
01:03:30,380 --> 01:03:27,990
Aztec crash right okay that book had a

1495
01:03:31,970 --> 01:03:30,390
lot of information I thought that was

1496
01:03:33,830 --> 01:03:31,980
useful although I don't think they made

1497
01:03:36,290 --> 01:03:33,840
their case but it was useful information

1498
01:03:38,090 --> 01:03:36,300
but it had a problem and I'll tell you

1499
01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:38,100
what that problem is when we tell you

1500
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:39,720
that you're listening to Jeanne and

1501
01:03:51,020 --> 01:03:42,330
Chris with shop Talk you're in the para

1502
01:03:54,890 --> 01:03:51,030
cast hey neighbors you've seen all those

1503
01:03:57,260 --> 01:03:54,900
crazy wacky products on TV the perfect

1504
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tortilla easy covers hot booties

1505
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:01,170
furniture fix patty spin and more where

1506
01:04:06,380 --> 01:04:03,450
do you find all that stuff you go to as

1507
01:04:09,140 --> 01:04:06,390
seen on tv comm because this is the

1508
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:09,150
one-stop source for all of these TV

1509
01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:11,490
goods advertised find all your favorites

1510
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as seen on TV check them out as seen on

1511
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tv dot-com and by the way save 10%

1512
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1513
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use the code scene 1 scen number 1 scene

1514
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1 go to as-seen-on-tv come to order save

1515
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1516
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1519
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1520
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1521
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1522
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2012 go open this morning at 1700 for a

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1524
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1525
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1526
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hi this is Ted Anderson have you ever

1527
01:05:13,740 --> 01:05:12,040
wondered why banks stock brokers

1528
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:13,750
investment advisors won't talk about

1529
01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:17,050
gold IRAs wait a sec gold and silver is

1530
01:05:20,670 --> 01:05:18,700
going up while Congress is trying to

1531
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:20,680
settle on the next debt increase and

1532
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:22,690
there's no end of this madness that old

1533
01:05:27,810 --> 01:05:25,090
401 K and IRA can be converted into

1534
01:05:30,210 --> 01:05:27,820
physical gold without tax consequences I

1535
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:30,220
explained this in my book 10 reasons to

1536
01:05:37,050 --> 01:05:32,830
buy gold doma time slip away call for

1537
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1538
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away from that Washington spin and get

1539
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1540
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the book is free 800 686 22:37 you store

1541
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:53,290
guns ammo and food in water but do you

1542
01:05:57,690 --> 01:05:55,090
store peace of mind when it comes to

1543
01:06:00,090 --> 01:05:57,700
your firearms now you can with door cut

1544
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the last thing anyone needs is a firearm

1545
01:06:03,870 --> 01:06:01,869
that won't work when you need it most

1546
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improve the factory finish indoor coat

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1548
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protection against rust and corrosion

1549
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1550
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water salt water mud grime or whatever

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airbrush or other spray equipments just

1556
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degrease then spray on dora coat and let

1557
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dry for a lifetime of protection Dorot

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1600
01:08:17,170 --> 01:08:14,720
jean and chris and the para cast and i

1601
01:08:18,970 --> 01:08:17,180
was talking about in the topic of worst

1602
01:08:20,290 --> 01:08:18,980
UFO books and i don't say this is the

1603
01:08:23,170 --> 01:08:20,300
worst UFO book okay

1604
01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:23,180
it wasn't but the one problem with it

1605
01:08:31,150 --> 01:08:26,480
the book that the Ramseys did is that

1606
01:08:33,490 --> 01:08:31,160
the book was badly edited not well

1607
01:08:35,260 --> 01:08:33,500
organized they basically did their own

1608
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:35,270
editing i guess and have their friends

1609
01:08:40,420 --> 01:08:37,370
look at it if they hired a professional

1610
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:40,430
editor an objective person and they put

1611
01:08:45,550 --> 01:08:42,710
a half million dollars supposedly into

1612
01:08:47,260 --> 01:08:45,560
investigating ass tech the ramsey's if

1613
01:08:49,090 --> 01:08:47,270
they can afford spending a half million

1614
01:08:50,620 --> 01:08:49,100
dollars to investigate something why not

1615
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:50,630
spend fifteen hundred twenty-five

1616
01:08:55,540 --> 01:08:52,850
hundred dollars to get a skilled editor

1617
01:08:58,329 --> 01:08:55,550
to say here's what's wrong with the book

1618
01:09:00,220 --> 01:08:58,339
let me help you fix it let me tell you

1619
01:09:01,590 --> 01:09:00,230
what you need to do to present your

1620
01:09:04,510 --> 01:09:01,600
evidence in a better form get a

1621
01:09:06,310 --> 01:09:04,520
independent look at what you had and

1622
01:09:08,290 --> 01:09:06,320
that's what went wrong with that book

1623
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:08,300
and that is what's wrong with a lot of

1624
01:09:11,860 --> 01:09:10,250
self-published books it's not that

1625
01:09:14,170 --> 01:09:11,870
somebody doesn't have a good idea it's

1626
01:09:16,270 --> 01:09:14,180
not that they aren't good writers some

1627
01:09:18,940 --> 01:09:16,280
people are very good writers but even

1628
01:09:20,290 --> 01:09:18,950
the best-selling authors out there the

1629
01:09:23,740 --> 01:09:20,300
ones who are selling millions of books

1630
01:09:25,630 --> 01:09:23,750
they have not just one editor but

1631
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:25,640
several yeah i'm very good point i

1632
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:28,319
should follow that

1633
01:09:31,169 --> 01:09:30,489
well if you and I ever write a book

1634
01:09:33,900 --> 01:09:31,179
together

1635
01:09:35,370 --> 01:09:33,910
I assure you however we do it we will

1636
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:35,380
make sure that book is edited when my

1637
01:09:41,010 --> 01:09:38,290
son I wrote the science fiction books

1638
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:41,020
the first thing we did when we decide to

1639
01:09:45,570 --> 01:09:43,839
have my agent publish it for us at least

1640
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:45,580
the first book was published by my agent

1641
01:09:50,010 --> 01:09:47,650
with her publishing company the first

1642
01:09:51,930 --> 01:09:50,020
thing she said is get yourself an editor

1643
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:51,940
and I did and I paid for it out of my

1644
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:54,130
own pocket on the second book because it

1645
01:09:57,540 --> 01:09:56,010
was so much bigger we had two editors

1646
01:10:00,689 --> 01:09:57,550
working on it

1647
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:00,699
we didn't take a chance as I said we're

1648
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:02,170
not claiming to be the greatest writers

1649
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:04,090
in the world although I think we write

1650
01:10:10,530 --> 01:10:06,850
well enough to be commercial the point

1651
01:10:12,330 --> 01:10:10,540
is you've got to have that third party

1652
01:10:14,820 --> 01:10:12,340
come in there and make sure it's right

1653
01:10:18,169 --> 01:10:14,830
yeah well my answer to those questions

1654
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:18,179
is kind of difficult I have so many

1655
01:10:23,250 --> 01:10:21,370
sci-fi books that I've enjoyed over the

1656
01:10:25,820 --> 01:10:23,260
years the the Frank Herbert dune series

1657
01:10:30,209 --> 01:10:25,830
is way up there at the top of my list

1658
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:30,219
childhoods and arthur c clarke his is

1659
01:10:34,919 --> 01:10:32,530
way up there as well it'd be very

1660
01:10:36,959 --> 01:10:34,929
difficult for me to pick out a single

1661
01:10:40,350 --> 01:10:36,969
book that would be my favorite but in

1662
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:40,360
the worst UFO book category that's also

1663
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:42,610
difficult because I don't generally

1664
01:10:48,450 --> 01:10:45,370
allow myself to read bad UFO books III

1665
01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:48,460
don't even I don't even go there the

1666
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:51,580
Pamela stone book what could have to be

1667
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:54,090
in the running that was pretty bizarre

1668
01:10:59,340 --> 01:10:57,130
and there are others but but again I do

1669
01:11:02,060 --> 01:10:59,350
try to accentuate the positive and you

1670
01:11:04,620 --> 01:11:02,070
know I'm a real fan of good UFO books so

1671
01:11:07,770 --> 01:11:04,630
that's that's rather tough for me to

1672
01:11:12,030 --> 01:11:07,780
answer well gee what is your most

1673
01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:12,040
compelling UFO case from the modern era

1674
01:11:17,490 --> 01:11:14,830
of UFOs that's a blow fish's last

1675
01:11:19,770 --> 01:11:17,500
question I've already answered mine I

1676
01:11:22,650 --> 01:11:19,780
think I think the the skinwalker ranch

1677
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:22,660
case is snippy the horse case from 1967

1678
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:24,640
in the San Luis Valley I think is very

1679
01:11:32,820 --> 01:11:27,310
important they the Washington flyovers I

1680
01:11:35,310 --> 01:11:32,830
think on July in 1950 or is a 5150 to

1681
01:11:37,650 --> 01:11:35,320
those that was a very important case but

1682
01:11:39,790 --> 01:11:37,660
how about you gene well okay there are a

1683
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:39,800
lot of unusual things there that

1684
01:11:43,980 --> 01:11:42,800
are probably not ufo-related so I'll set

1685
01:11:48,430 --> 01:11:43,990
them aside for a moment

1686
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:48,440
Washington July 1952 simultaneous radar

1687
01:11:52,990 --> 01:11:51,530
visual sightings the very clumsy effort

1688
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:53,000
by the government to explain them away

1689
01:11:57,580 --> 01:11:55,370
as temperature inversions really bad

1690
01:12:00,250 --> 01:11:57,590
although I've thought of the possibility

1691
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:00,260
of government disinformation I think the

1692
01:12:05,260 --> 01:12:02,330
Barney and Betty hill case very

1693
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:05,270
encouraging in terms of something that

1694
01:12:11,710 --> 01:12:09,530
seemed solid a genuine experience with

1695
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:11,720
something unknown I'll go with that

1696
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:13,610
I think that something really strange

1697
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:16,640
happened there I think the case of the

1698
01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:19,040
Silver Bridge Point Pleasant West

1699
01:12:27,340 --> 01:12:24,310
Virginia and Mothman very strange UFOs

1700
01:12:30,490 --> 01:12:27,350
cryptozoological I don't know really

1701
01:12:32,620 --> 01:12:30,500
unusual things happen there and I

1702
01:12:37,290 --> 01:12:32,630
consider that compelling the Michigan

1703
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:37,300
UFO cases from the 1960s the one that

1704
01:12:42,490 --> 01:12:39,890
called swamp gas the ones that

1705
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:42,500
encouraged then congressman Gerald Ford

1706
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:44,570
to ask for hearings that brought about

1707
01:12:48,220 --> 01:12:46,730
the Condon report and the Condon

1708
01:12:48,700 --> 01:12:48,230
Commission I thought that was very

1709
01:12:51,730 --> 01:12:48,710
compelling

1710
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:51,740
I thought during those years we had so

1711
01:12:57,250 --> 01:12:54,050
many UFO cases it was amazing

1712
01:13:00,460 --> 01:12:57,260
obviously modern UFO encounters such as

1713
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:00,470
O'Hare Airport in Chicago Stephenville

1714
01:13:06,490 --> 01:13:03,770
Texas they show that kind of traditional

1715
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:06,500
case of something that is really

1716
01:13:12,250 --> 01:13:09,170
compelling really unexplainable Socorro

1717
01:13:14,590 --> 01:13:12,260
New Mexico is the other example sue Karl

1718
01:13:16,900 --> 01:13:14,600
is a very important case very important

1719
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:16,910
and when you look at all these cases if

1720
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:20,510
you had no other UFO encounters whatever

1721
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,210
if there were no other UFO cases it

1722
01:13:27,790 --> 01:13:25,040
would be evidence that something was

1723
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:27,800
going on you only need one case I do not

1724
01:13:36,370 --> 01:13:32,170
include this list things like of course

1725
01:13:40,090 --> 01:13:36,380
Roswell I think Roswell has a legendary

1726
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:40,100
status I think there are other

1727
01:13:45,310 --> 01:13:42,800
possibilities for Roswell it doesn't

1728
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:45,320
necessarily have to be ET but it keeps

1729
01:13:49,540 --> 01:13:47,570
the UFO legend alive so I guess we keep

1730
01:13:53,379 --> 01:13:49,550
talking about it point out the truth

1731
01:13:56,530 --> 01:13:53,389
well here's here's one from a new

1732
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:56,540
sign up here at forum dr. Peres cast

1733
01:14:04,270 --> 01:13:59,600
calm he calls himself the cake is a lie

1734
01:14:07,540 --> 01:14:04,280
and I'm not sure what the cake is a lie

1735
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:07,550
the cake is a lie that name takes the

1736
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:08,000
cake

1737
01:14:12,580 --> 01:14:10,489
exactly he just signed up a couple of

1738
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:12,590
weeks ago and he wants to know from

1739
01:14:16,660 --> 01:14:15,110
Eugene having been an observer or part

1740
01:14:18,189 --> 01:14:16,670
of the U falah djegal world for as long

1741
01:14:20,260 --> 01:14:18,199
as you have what are some of your

1742
01:14:23,410 --> 01:14:20,270
thoughts on how the public today looks

1743
01:14:26,919 --> 01:14:23,420
at ufology now compared to in the past

1744
01:14:29,050 --> 01:14:26,929
and how do you think it might change in

1745
01:14:32,290 --> 01:14:29,060
the future both near and distant that's

1746
01:14:34,330 --> 01:14:32,300
a tough one well I think the percentage

1747
01:14:37,450 --> 01:14:34,340
of people who believe in UFOs has gone

1748
01:14:40,419 --> 01:14:37,460
down from the 1990s it was about 50% now

1749
01:14:43,930 --> 01:14:40,429
it's about 1/3 I think people are so

1750
01:14:45,850 --> 01:14:43,940
inundated with the problems of eking out

1751
01:14:47,649 --> 01:14:45,860
a living in this society in the 21st

1752
01:14:50,859 --> 01:14:47,659
century they don't pay as much attention

1753
01:14:53,169 --> 01:14:50,869
to UFOs or they look at UFOs as a source

1754
01:14:55,930 --> 01:14:53,179
of entertainment so we have chasing UFOs

1755
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:55,940
and these reality shows so it's fun and

1756
01:15:01,209 --> 01:14:58,400
games to them I don't think you see as

1757
01:15:02,919 --> 01:15:01,219
much interest as you used to and that's

1758
01:15:05,290 --> 01:15:02,929
disappointing because the mystery is no

1759
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:05,300
less compelling I think that gets into

1760
01:15:10,780 --> 01:15:08,090
how do we attract young people to be in

1761
01:15:14,140 --> 01:15:10,790
the field that's something possibly that

1762
01:15:17,140 --> 01:15:14,150
we'll get into later in more detail well

1763
01:15:20,979 --> 01:15:17,150
the question that question was was for

1764
01:15:22,689 --> 01:15:20,989
you he has a part - that's for me and it

1765
01:15:23,890 --> 01:15:22,699
says Chris even is someone who seems to

1766
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:23,900
have had an interest in the paranormal

1767
01:15:28,899 --> 01:15:26,449
long before becoming a paranormal

1768
01:15:30,729 --> 01:15:28,909
investigator how was your view on the

1769
01:15:33,970 --> 01:15:30,739
world around you change since you

1770
01:15:36,850 --> 01:15:33,980
started investigating cases hmm that's

1771
01:15:39,340 --> 01:15:36,860
an interesting question I don't think my

1772
01:15:44,260 --> 01:15:39,350
view of the world really has changed I

1773
01:15:47,470 --> 01:15:44,270
think my own personal level and state of

1774
01:15:51,399 --> 01:15:47,480
confusion has changed it seems as the

1775
01:15:54,580 --> 01:15:51,409
years go by I I make three steps forward

1776
01:15:56,950 --> 01:15:54,590
and two steps back I I think I I times

1777
01:16:00,729 --> 01:15:56,960
become more confused than I was before I

1778
01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:00,739
really got into this as deeply as I have

1779
01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:03,679
and it's almost like the more you know

1780
01:16:08,450 --> 01:16:05,670
the more you realize you don't know that

1781
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:08,460
old cliche hand and I think that does

1782
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:11,250
hold true for me and and I think a lot

1783
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:13,920
of investigators out there we are slowly

1784
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:16,320
making progress I think one thing that

1785
01:16:22,850 --> 01:16:21,510
has changed is I really have taken a

1786
01:16:25,340 --> 01:16:22,860
huge step back from the

1787
01:16:27,500 --> 01:16:25,350
extra-terrestrial hypothesis that's my

1788
01:16:29,810 --> 01:16:27,510
thing we should talk about more but we

1789
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have to spend a few moments with our

1790
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benefactors with gene and Chris you're

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1849
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1850
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1851
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1856
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as the price of raw ingredients

1857
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1858
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prices - now is the time to get your

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supply I recently increased my supply

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1897
01:21:03,630 --> 01:21:01,300
you are listening to the podcast we talk

1898
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:03,640
shop for 2012 Jean and Chris in the

1899
01:21:08,190 --> 01:21:06,010
power cast answering your questions and

1900
01:21:10,410 --> 01:21:08,200
as Chris said there at the end of the

1901
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:10,420
previous segment over the years he's

1902
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:13,570
taken a step back from ETH or

1903
01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:15,490
extraterrestrial tell our listeners why

1904
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:19,510
well it had to do with the first case I

1905
01:21:25,950 --> 01:21:23,170
actually investigated back in 1993 and

1906
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:25,960
towards the end and I think the second

1907
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:28,480
week of January actually when I had the

1908
01:21:34,590 --> 01:21:31,090
the family tell me about a bullet was

1909
01:21:36,990 --> 01:21:34,600
mutilated 13 years before and observing

1910
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:37,000
a yellow antique helicopter fly right

1911
01:21:41,790 --> 01:21:39,760
over their house and come to find their

1912
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:41,800
bow had been mutilated and they course

1913
01:21:46,350 --> 01:21:44,560
equated the two events and 13 years

1914
01:21:48,780 --> 01:21:46,360
later I was interviewing them went home

1915
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:48,790
the following morning as I'm typing up

1916
01:21:52,380 --> 01:21:50,800
my notes from the interview I have an

1917
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:52,390
antique yellow helicopter flew right

1918
01:21:56,850 --> 01:21:54,850
over my house and in at that instant I

1919
01:21:59,240 --> 01:21:56,860
realized that this was infinitely more

1920
01:22:01,680 --> 01:21:59,250
complex and that the extra-terrestrial

1921
01:22:05,580 --> 01:22:01,690
hypothesis was woefully inadequate to

1922
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:05,590
explain something like that unless I you

1923
01:22:10,590 --> 01:22:07,360
know there were five other witnesses to

1924
01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:10,600
the helicopter so that was a real nuts

1925
01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:12,310
and bolts machine the flew over the

1926
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:14,320
house but but I mean what what are the

1927
01:22:20,460 --> 01:22:18,310
odds I tried every which way to find out

1928
01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:20,470
where that thing came from and was

1929
01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:22,660
laughed at by anybody that knew anything

1930
01:22:26,970 --> 01:22:24,700
about aviation they said these things

1931
01:22:29,340 --> 01:22:26,980
are in museums so they just are not

1932
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:29,350
being operated anymore so from that

1933
01:22:36,060 --> 01:22:33,210
point on I I really had a a wake-up call

1934
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:36,070
prior to that of course like most people

1935
01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:38,050
I assume that you know aliens were here

1936
01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:41,500
interacting with us observing us maybe

1937
01:22:46,620 --> 01:22:44,020
tweaking our genetic code at some point

1938
01:22:51,570 --> 01:22:46,630
in the distant past you know and all the

1939
01:22:53,580 --> 01:22:51,580
popular knee-jerk sort of things that

1940
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:53,590
people tend to buy into I think in the

1941
01:22:59,240 --> 01:22:56,110
modern age and and I and I instantly

1942
01:23:02,280 --> 01:22:59,250
went the other way I started devouring

1943
01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:02,290
rereading all my Jacques Vallee books my

1944
01:23:07,530 --> 01:23:03,490
John keel books

1945
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:07,540
Charles fort and getting into more

1946
01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:10,090
cutting-edge out-of-the-box thinkers and

1947
01:23:17,130 --> 01:23:12,760
so if anything has changed it's been

1948
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:17,140
that now having said that and as most

1949
01:23:21,450 --> 01:23:19,090
listeners on the show know this is this

1950
01:23:23,580 --> 01:23:21,460
is not news to you I've been very vocal

1951
01:23:25,770 --> 01:23:23,590
about my views in this regard but

1952
01:23:29,150 --> 01:23:25,780
meeting and interacting with Ray

1953
01:23:33,900 --> 01:23:29,160
Stanford who gets my vote as the top

1954
01:23:36,030 --> 01:23:33,910
analyst in in the UFO realm today he's

1955
01:23:38,670 --> 01:23:36,040
been in this at this game for over 50

1956
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:38,680
years his observational and visual

1957
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:41,170
acuity is off the charts nobody can

1958
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:43,930
touch him I don't care I will I will

1959
01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:47,410
prove that every which way but loose but

1960
01:23:51,660 --> 01:23:49,510
but Ray is very convinced that we are

1961
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:51,670
dealing with off-planet intelligences

1962
01:23:57,180 --> 01:23:54,010
coming here in large carrier vehicles

1963
01:23:59,850 --> 01:23:57,190
discharging medium-sized ships at

1964
01:24:02,670 --> 01:23:59,860
discharge smaller ships and he has

1965
01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:02,680
brought me back towards the center a

1966
01:24:06,630 --> 01:24:05,470
little bit but I'm still convinced that

1967
01:24:09,570 --> 01:24:06,640
we're dealing with closed system

1968
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:09,580
phenomena and and that is the the major

1969
01:24:14,730 --> 01:24:12,370
thing that has changed since I became a

1970
01:24:16,890 --> 01:24:14,740
full-time or you know as full time as

1971
01:24:19,650 --> 01:24:16,900
possible investigator now when you say

1972
01:24:22,230 --> 01:24:19,660
closed system explain to our listeners

1973
01:24:27,060 --> 01:24:22,240
what you mean well in other words I have

1974
01:24:30,810 --> 01:24:27,070
a real strong suspicion that somehow

1975
01:24:34,290 --> 01:24:30,820
this this blue ball spinning in space is

1976
01:24:37,230 --> 01:24:34,300
generating these phenomenal events that

1977
01:24:38,970 --> 01:24:37,240
I'm not factoring out the possibility

1978
01:24:42,420 --> 01:24:38,980
that ETS are coming here obviously there

1979
01:24:44,820 --> 01:24:42,430
are billions of civilizations out there

1980
01:24:46,620 --> 01:24:44,830
in the universe I just find it difficult

1981
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:46,630
to believe that we're important enough

1982
01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:48,910
for anything out there to come here I I

1983
01:24:54,750 --> 01:24:51,490
haven't seen one shred of you know

1984
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:54,760
unassailable unequivocal evidence to to

1985
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:56,890
prove that we are being visited by ETS I

1986
01:25:02,700 --> 01:24:59,920
don't care who you are I have not seen

1987
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:02,710
this not one shred of evidence so I

1988
01:25:08,190 --> 01:25:04,330
think we should exhaust all

1989
01:25:10,020 --> 01:25:08,200
possibilities that we are somehow seeing

1990
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:10,030
manifestations of events that are being

1991
01:25:14,620 --> 01:25:12,610
generated by some force or mechanism

1992
01:25:19,180 --> 01:25:14,630
from this planet

1993
01:25:22,420 --> 01:25:19,190
and the further I go in this and the

1994
01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:22,430
more research I do about the potential

1995
01:25:30,580 --> 01:25:25,840
for breakaway civilization and a secret

1996
01:25:35,170 --> 01:25:30,590
scientific program that may even involve

1997
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:35,180
a whole hidden physics that relativistic

1998
01:25:40,990 --> 01:25:39,110
physics may be only a part of the the

1999
01:25:42,940 --> 01:25:41,000
actual knowledge that humans have

2000
01:25:45,790 --> 01:25:42,950
attained there's there's this whole idea

2001
01:25:48,580 --> 01:25:45,800
of aether physics and/or ether physics

2002
01:25:51,790 --> 01:25:48,590
and that the the Nazis during World War

2003
01:25:55,330 --> 01:25:51,800
two were able to make great strides in

2004
01:25:56,770 --> 01:25:55,340
in developing exotic technologies and

2005
01:25:59,770 --> 01:25:56,780
and I've been reading rereading my

2006
01:26:02,110 --> 01:25:59,780
Joseph Farrell books recently and there

2007
01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:02,120
is a lot of evidence to suggest that we

2008
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:05,840
do have you know potentially have

2009
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:09,290
technology that has been rich the

2010
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:11,930
longtime head of the skunk works said we

2011
01:26:17,170 --> 01:26:14,930
have the technology to take e.t home and

2012
01:26:19,540 --> 01:26:17,180
he said this on a number of occasions in

2013
01:26:21,580 --> 01:26:19,550
different ways and he also mentioned a

2014
01:26:25,420 --> 01:26:21,590
very interesting thing that that for a

2015
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:25,430
long time there was a problem with a

2016
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:28,250
particular equation and that they had

2017
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:29,840
finally figured it out and that had

2018
01:26:37,930 --> 01:26:34,250
opened up our technological prowess and

2019
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:37,940
in our ability to to access the Stars

2020
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:40,250
and he actually did come out and say we

2021
01:26:46,090 --> 01:26:41,930
have the technology to go to the Stars

2022
01:26:49,540 --> 01:26:46,100
so I think that you know when you factor

2023
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:49,550
in man-made UFOs potential

2024
01:26:53,340 --> 01:26:51,110
manifestations within the collective

2025
01:26:55,930 --> 01:26:53,350
unconscious possibly we're all

2026
01:26:58,510 --> 01:26:55,940
manifesting these events in an attempt

2027
01:27:00,190 --> 01:26:58,520
to pull ourselves off the planet to go

2028
01:27:02,290 --> 01:27:00,200
out and see the universe we know the

2029
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:02,300
planets gonna die we're gonna get hit by

2030
01:27:07,870 --> 01:27:05,030
an asteroid some you know catastrophic

2031
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:07,880
earth or sending a world ending event

2032
01:27:12,610 --> 01:27:10,250
the Sun is gonna go supernova at some

2033
01:27:15,310 --> 01:27:12,620
point so we do need to get out there

2034
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:15,320
spread our genes out into into the

2035
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:16,730
universe like a dandelion

2036
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:19,130
you know spreading its little seeds out

2037
01:27:23,950 --> 01:27:21,920
with the wind and collectively we may be

2038
01:27:26,350 --> 01:27:23,960
somehow manifesting the types of

2039
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:26,360
phenomenal events that are going to lure

2040
01:27:30,900 --> 01:27:28,690
us or drive us or inspire

2041
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:30,910
eres to leave leave this planet and go

2042
01:27:35,340 --> 01:27:33,040
out into the universe that's back to Ray

2043
01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:35,350
Palmer so many years ago and Ray Palmer

2044
01:27:40,260 --> 01:27:37,630
I think pulled a few stunts in his

2045
01:27:42,630 --> 01:27:40,270
pioneering UFO writings and publishing

2046
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:42,640
flying saucers are here to make us think

2047
01:27:47,070 --> 01:27:45,610
think about what think about our future

2048
01:27:50,340 --> 01:27:47,080
maybe that's the consideration there

2049
01:27:52,890 --> 01:27:50,350
that UFOs help us think about the future

2050
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:52,900
and future possibilities oh here's

2051
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:54,400
someone who may have traveled here from

2052
01:27:59,100 --> 01:27:57,130
another star system gee it would be nice

2053
01:28:00,780 --> 01:27:59,110
if we could do that but right now I'm so

2054
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:00,790
disappointed because we've cut back so

2055
01:28:06,689 --> 01:28:03,130
far on the space program the promise of

2056
01:28:08,220 --> 01:28:06,699
the space program in the 1960s has never

2057
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:08,230
been realized

2058
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:11,650
yeah well that's boy that's the truth I

2059
01:28:16,979 --> 01:28:14,650
want to get down off my soapbox but the

2060
01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:16,989
question was asked and I'm one of you

2061
01:28:20,370 --> 01:28:19,000
know a few people I think as the years

2062
01:28:22,860 --> 01:28:20,380
go by more and more people are starting

2063
01:28:26,420 --> 01:28:22,870
to think like I do I know Greg Bishop

2064
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:26,430
Nick Redfern and and others have been

2065
01:28:32,130 --> 01:28:29,770
you know champion Isleta look at all the

2066
01:28:34,890 --> 01:28:32,140
potential alternative scenarios besides

2067
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:34,900
et so I think it's slowly starting to

2068
01:28:40,740 --> 01:28:36,610
build some momentum my attempt to

2069
01:28:43,860 --> 01:28:40,750
identify a causal agent or mechanism

2070
01:28:45,780 --> 01:28:43,870
that for lack of a better term I refer

2071
01:28:48,090 --> 01:28:45,790
to as the trickster I think there are

2072
01:28:50,910 --> 01:28:48,100
ins and outs and out-of-the-box

2073
01:28:53,550 --> 01:28:50,920
scenarios that are not enough attention

2074
01:28:54,630 --> 01:28:53,560
is being is being paid to two

2075
01:28:56,700 --> 01:28:54,640
alternative theories

2076
01:28:58,590 --> 01:28:56,710
I think the extra-terrestrial hypothesis

2077
01:29:00,479 --> 01:28:58,600
and the adherence to that have run

2078
01:29:04,170 --> 01:29:00,489
roughshod over creative thinking in this

2079
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:04,180
field I think the media has been beating

2080
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:06,489
people over the head with Roswell and

2081
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:10,210
and these archetypal images of grey

2082
01:29:13,950 --> 01:29:10,810
aliens

2083
01:29:16,620 --> 01:29:13,960
too many people are willing to sit back

2084
01:29:18,540 --> 01:29:16,630
and let the media program their thinking

2085
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:18,550
for them and no no no no of course it's

2086
01:29:21,780 --> 01:29:19,840
not paying attention all they're doing

2087
01:29:24,689 --> 01:29:21,790
is repeating what they hear exact back

2088
01:29:26,580 --> 01:29:24,699
in the 1960s Allen Greenfield has been

2089
01:29:30,090 --> 01:29:26,590
on the show several times and I we're

2090
01:29:32,670 --> 01:29:30,100
speculating about other avenues of UFO

2091
01:29:34,890 --> 01:29:32,680
research alternative theories back in

2092
01:29:37,140 --> 01:29:34,900
the 60s it seemed to gain steam in the

2093
01:29:40,110 --> 01:29:37,150
70s and then it went back to ETH again

2094
01:29:41,900 --> 01:29:40,120
and then people like you and Greg and

2095
01:29:43,790 --> 01:29:41,910
Nick Redfern

2096
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:43,800
ahead and started that research again

2097
01:29:46,910 --> 01:29:46,050
you know well here's here's a good

2098
01:29:49,340 --> 01:29:46,920
question

2099
01:29:51,050 --> 01:29:49,350
gene actually the simple of them and

2100
01:29:54,260 --> 01:29:51,060
this is from one of our most active

2101
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:54,270
posters dogs Mackey who's been a member

2102
01:29:57,710 --> 01:29:55,530
of the para cast for about a year and a

2103
01:29:59,720 --> 01:29:57,720
half now and his first question is are

2104
01:30:02,930 --> 01:29:59,730
there any guests you have failed to

2105
01:30:06,710 --> 01:30:02,940
secure but would still strongly like to

2106
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:06,720
see on the show I've got a few I kind of

2107
01:30:10,580 --> 01:30:08,850
answered that question I'd like to talk

2108
01:30:13,070 --> 01:30:10,590
to whit least Reaper I think there's

2109
01:30:15,140 --> 01:30:13,080
some things about what he says that

2110
01:30:17,870 --> 01:30:15,150
intrigued me but he has to be willing to

2111
01:30:20,450 --> 01:30:17,880
submit to real questions and that's a

2112
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:20,460
huge problem but part of it is it's not

2113
01:30:24,410 --> 01:30:22,110
so much that there are guests out there

2114
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:24,420
that I would like to have but guests I

2115
01:30:27,290 --> 01:30:26,610
would have liked to have but they're no

2116
01:30:29,300 --> 01:30:27,300
longer with us

2117
01:30:31,070 --> 01:30:29,310
you know and the question that part of

2118
01:30:36,050 --> 01:30:31,080
the question in a moment with gene and

2119
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[Music]

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01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:06,450
we continue shoptalk 2012 with gene and

2211
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:08,850
Chris and the power cast and I kind of

2212
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:11,970
forked off that question what guests

2213
01:35:17,390 --> 01:35:14,490
would I have liked to have on the show

2214
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:17,400
and one is John keel we made an effort

2215
01:35:22,460 --> 01:35:19,410
before he died to get John keel on the

2216
01:35:25,340 --> 01:35:22,470
show and at that point he got pre ornery

2217
01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:25,350
in his final years yeah I made an effort

2218
01:35:30,500 --> 01:35:28,080
to have Richard Hall on the show he was

2219
01:35:32,780 --> 01:35:30,510
a pioneer UFO researcher he wrote the

2220
01:35:34,700 --> 01:35:32,790
UFO evidence while at night cap I had a

2221
01:35:36,980 --> 01:35:34,710
few run-ins with him we buried the

2222
01:35:39,350 --> 01:35:36,990
hatchet in the 70s when I finally got a

2223
01:35:41,180 --> 01:35:39,360
chance to talk to him about it he was

2224
01:35:43,310 --> 01:35:41,190
not feeling all that well so he didn't

2225
01:35:44,690 --> 01:35:43,320
want to go on the show so that was our

2226
01:35:48,440 --> 01:35:44,700
effort with Richard Hall so it's a

2227
01:35:49,970 --> 01:35:48,450
matter of regret yeah I regret that dr.

2228
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:49,980
J Allen Hynek is no longer with us

2229
01:35:53,810 --> 01:35:51,450
because he would have made a great guess

2230
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:53,820
I did know him people like charles

2231
01:35:58,220 --> 01:35:55,410
berlitz who wrote the bermuda triangle

2232
01:36:00,800 --> 01:35:58,230
the first book on Roswell with William

2233
01:36:02,780 --> 01:36:00,810
Moore and Stanton Friedman he would have

2234
01:36:06,050 --> 01:36:02,790
been a wonderful guest I interviewed him

2235
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on a cable TV show back in the 70s he

2236
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had the dancing twinkling eyes he was a

2237
01:36:15,020 --> 01:36:11,460
fun interview so in that sense I regret

2238
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:15,030
not having interviewed him I think most

2239
01:36:19,850 --> 01:36:18,210
of the people who are alive today that I

2240
01:36:22,610 --> 01:36:19,860
would have liked to come on the show and

2241
01:36:24,860 --> 01:36:22,620
I've asked have accepted only a few have

2242
01:36:26,690 --> 01:36:24,870
kind of sat back there I know there's a

2243
01:36:28,220 --> 01:36:26,700
lot of guests we'd like to get on and I

2244
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:28,230
hope they'll listen I hope they will

2245
01:36:33,110 --> 01:36:30,330
accept our invitation Chris well I'm

2246
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:33,120
working on getting Joseph Farrell on the

2247
01:36:38,150 --> 01:36:35,280
show I think his work and also Henry

2248
01:36:40,850 --> 01:36:38,160
Stephens their work on the whole

2249
01:36:45,020 --> 01:36:40,860
man-made UFO and breakaway civilization

2250
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and possible secret scientific parallel

2251
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:47,880
tracks I think is very very intriguing

2252
01:36:53,030 --> 01:36:51,360
and compelling I'm actively attempting

2253
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:53,040
to get those two gentlemen on the show

2254
01:36:57,740 --> 01:36:55,650
I'd like to get Andrew passaggio on and

2255
01:37:01,880 --> 01:36:57,750
this douglas dietrich who is making

2256
01:37:03,050 --> 01:37:01,890
quite a stir right now with his claims

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of

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his vision is history and that the

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Japanese actually sued for peace and we

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didn't really bury the hatchet with them

2261
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until 52 and how the alien meme the gray

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alien is actually a subliminal Asiatic

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appearing form that's he has some very

2264
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:22,500
interesting theories this is Douglas

2265
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Dietrich now the grey alien is somehow

2266
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Asian yes the slanted eyes he has a very

2267
01:37:32,210 --> 01:37:30,690
interesting take on that I don't have

2268
01:37:35,210 --> 01:37:32,220
enough time to go into his theories but

2269
01:37:37,790 --> 01:37:35,220
Douglas Dietrich he's been making quite

2270
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:37,800
a quite a stir here recently

2271
01:37:43,130 --> 01:37:41,010
so therefore George Takei who plays low

2272
01:37:46,820 --> 01:37:43,140
on Star Trek yeah he's an alien

2273
01:37:49,730 --> 01:37:46,830
yeah well it's it's it's actually it's

2274
01:37:52,490 --> 01:37:49,740
it's almost like he sort of equates it

2275
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:52,500
was some sort of bigotry but again I'm

2276
01:37:56,150 --> 01:37:54,480
not that familiar with his material I

2277
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haven't had the time to really dive into

2278
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it I've read a couple of fairly

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substantial articles and Nexis magazine

2280
01:38:04,610 --> 01:38:03,390
interviews that he gave this is some

2281
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:04,620
interesting stuff there and I'd love to

2282
01:38:09,110 --> 01:38:06,090
get him on the show he's very

2283
01:38:12,380 --> 01:38:09,120
well-spoken very bright guy and you

2284
01:38:15,140 --> 01:38:12,390
passaggio I say this guy is is just a

2285
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:15,150
total enigma to me he has four degrees

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allegedly he's supposedly a successful

2287
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practicing lawyer in Washington State

2288
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he's effortless with his presentation of

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course there's absolutely nothing to

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back up his claim that he was a a

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time-traveling six-year-old and in a

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01:38:40,940 --> 01:38:38,400
jump room astronaut teleporting to Mars

2293
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:40,950
with Barack Obama and I want to get this

2294
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:42,690
guy in the show and I do have an

2295
01:38:47,570 --> 01:38:45,210
outstanding invitation he's agreed to do

2296
01:38:51,230 --> 01:38:47,580
the show but I think he may be having

2297
01:38:52,910 --> 01:38:51,240
second thoughts and give him a phone

2298
01:38:54,530 --> 01:38:52,920
call you kind of wonder though just

2299
01:39:00,320 --> 01:38:54,540
because a person has four degrees does

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not necessarily make them sane well he

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could be you know who knows he could be

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01:39:07,820 --> 01:39:04,650
many things he could be delusional he

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could be telling the truth he he could

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01:39:13,070 --> 01:39:10,980
be some sort of disinformation agent or

2305
01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:13,080
he's having a whale of a time acting we

2306
01:39:18,940 --> 01:39:16,110
well often it has this other life where

2307
01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:18,950
he's a serious practicing attorney a

2308
01:39:26,780 --> 01:39:22,080
professional and then he has this hobby

2309
01:39:30,340 --> 01:39:26,790
where he wants to be wacky well ice

2310
01:39:33,260 --> 01:39:30,350
noticed him and in on de Weber

2311
01:39:36,020 --> 01:39:33,270
whispering in the corner on a number of

2312
01:39:39,170 --> 01:39:36,030
occasions at the recent Santa Clara UFO

2313
01:39:41,950 --> 01:39:39,180
con conference I did walk up and

2314
01:39:44,090 --> 01:39:41,960
introduce myself to both men and

2315
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:44,100
suggested at some point that we talked

2316
01:39:50,570 --> 01:39:46,770
but they seem to kind of head the other

2317
01:39:54,440 --> 01:39:50,580
way every time I keep it so you think

2318
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:54,450
yeah must be something you said maybe my

2319
01:39:58,490 --> 01:39:56,400
reputation preceded me or something I

2320
01:40:01,160 --> 01:39:58,500
don't know you understand that I feel

2321
01:40:03,650 --> 01:40:01,170
also because we've had a few episodes

2322
01:40:05,780 --> 01:40:03,660
where we really ran after a guest and

2323
01:40:08,690 --> 01:40:05,790
tried to nail them to the wall because

2324
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they came out being deceptive I think in

2325
01:40:14,330 --> 01:40:10,680
situations like that some people think

2326
01:40:17,630 --> 01:40:14,340
this is a skeptical show yeah well we're

2327
01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:17,640
objective we don't buy into anything we

2328
01:40:24,770 --> 01:40:21,360
want people to you know kind of give our

2329
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:24,780
audience a quick education about their

2330
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particular subject or area of expertise

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and present us with their with their

2332
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arguments with their evidence with their

2333
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facts and let let our audience determine

2334
01:40:38,810 --> 01:40:36,960
for themselves we don't roll over and

2335
01:40:41,300 --> 01:40:38,820
let our guests scratch our bellies and

2336
01:40:44,210 --> 01:40:41,310
and we don't attack people we just want

2337
01:40:47,540 --> 01:40:44,220
to know what they have to back up their

2338
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:47,550
sometimes fairly outlandish claims and

2339
01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:49,650
and do passagio is someone I'd like to

2340
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:52,080
get on the show and really find out who

2341
01:40:58,940 --> 01:40:55,770
this guy is and if he has any any

2342
01:41:00,920 --> 01:40:58,950
evidence whatsoever to back up some of

2343
01:41:04,340 --> 01:41:00,930
the most incredible claims I have ever

2344
01:41:06,050 --> 01:41:04,350
heard in my years researching in this

2345
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:06,060
field another person I'd love to get on

2346
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:10,110
is Richard Doty this guy this guy has

2347
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:12,330
been involved in some of the most

2348
01:41:25,770 --> 01:41:21,180
you know him in Robert Collins the whole

2349
01:41:29,460 --> 01:41:25,780
serpo scenarios story that came out in

2350
01:41:31,830 --> 01:41:29,470
2004 2005 we had Robert Collins on here

2351
01:41:33,540 --> 01:41:31,840
for a short period of time and he didn't

2352
01:41:35,070 --> 01:41:33,550
like the way he was treated so he

2353
01:41:37,980 --> 01:41:35,080
recorded like a one-minute rebuttal

2354
01:41:41,790 --> 01:41:37,990
which made no sense whatever I have had

2355
01:41:44,300 --> 01:41:41,800
conversations by email with Richard Doty

2356
01:41:46,500 --> 01:41:44,310
and I guess he's the ultimate

2357
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:46,510
disinformation agent out there

2358
01:41:53,310 --> 01:41:48,960
you know anytime something weird happens

2359
01:41:56,970 --> 01:41:53,320
like mj-12 documents or project serpo

2360
01:41:59,070 --> 01:41:56,980
you think Richard Doty is involved he

2361
01:42:01,560 --> 01:41:59,080
said a couple of times he'd come on and

2362
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:01,570
man he sort of says now I'm not gonna do

2363
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:04,930
that I'd love to get Robert Bigelow on

2364
01:42:11,670 --> 01:42:08,710
the show okay you assigned yourself I'll

2365
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:11,680
go after Doty you go after Bigelow

2366
01:42:16,050 --> 01:42:14,290
yeah wish me luck on that one boy I'll

2367
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:16,060
show you I can't wait an essay with him

2368
01:42:24,150 --> 01:42:18,690
I can't wait for the Jesse Ventura

2369
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:24,160
conspiracy theory show that I helped

2370
01:42:30,990 --> 01:42:26,290
them produce on the Sherman ranch case

2371
01:42:35,480 --> 01:42:31,000
and about big louis role in in in

2372
01:42:41,730 --> 01:42:40,260
the show was was quite there was some

2373
01:42:43,740 --> 01:42:41,740
controversy around the show it was

2374
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:43,750
delayed the start of the new season was

2375
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:45,280
delayed almost I think eight or nine

2376
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:47,530
months and I think it's going to start

2377
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:51,040
airing episodes on November 7th I'm not

2378
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:53,170
sure where in the lineup this particular

2379
01:43:00,780 --> 01:42:57,040
show is going to be Network I think it's

2380
01:43:03,410 --> 01:43:00,790
still on truTV so but it is going to

2381
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:03,420
start airing the new season November 7th

2382
01:43:11,010 --> 01:43:07,570
tiya Ventura and who is Jesse's son and

2383
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:11,020
Oliver Stone son Sean Stone are the two

2384
01:43:16,170 --> 01:43:14,050
field investigators in these most of

2385
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:16,180
these episodes jesse did go out on a few

2386
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:19,210
of the shows i think but but when went i

2387
01:43:23,670 --> 01:43:21,520
was interviewed by alex jones a few

2388
01:43:25,890 --> 01:43:23,680
weeks back he said his favorite episode

2389
01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:25,900
of the new season was the was the

2390
01:43:31,359 --> 01:43:28,159
skinwalker ranch episode and

2391
01:43:34,899 --> 01:43:31,369
I having been there and experienced the

2392
01:43:36,370 --> 01:43:34,909
the shoot I'm gonna I I'm really

2393
01:43:38,199 --> 01:43:36,380
interested to see how it turned out

2394
01:43:41,979 --> 01:43:38,209
because evidently they were forced to

2395
01:43:44,020 --> 01:43:41,989
re-edit the show and I did speak with

2396
01:43:47,319 --> 01:43:44,030
one of the producers about this recently

2397
01:43:49,899 --> 01:43:47,329
and he was unable to tell me too much

2398
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:49,909
about why that happened but there is

2399
01:43:56,679 --> 01:43:53,840
some intrigue around the delay of the

2400
01:43:58,569 --> 01:43:56,689
new season and the fact that they had to

2401
01:44:00,339 --> 01:43:58,579
read at that one particular show I'm

2402
01:44:04,089 --> 01:44:00,349
very very interested to see how it

2403
01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:04,099
turned out by the way the latest movie

2404
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:06,320
starring Jesse Ventura he appears with

2405
01:44:11,739 --> 01:44:09,110
Tom Sizemore who's a pretty whacky actor

2406
01:44:17,799 --> 01:44:11,749
it's called it's not because of him the

2407
01:44:19,989 --> 01:44:17,809
movie is called the drunk this is from

2408
01:44:22,330 --> 01:44:19,999
the internet movie database so it has to

2409
01:44:25,060 --> 01:44:22,340
be true the plot is the hard-drinking

2410
01:44:27,909 --> 01:44:25,070
grandson of a legendary Labour leader

2411
01:44:30,459 --> 01:44:27,919
gets arrested for drunk driving he

2412
01:44:32,909 --> 01:44:30,469
decides to run for governor against the

2413
01:44:36,159 --> 01:44:32,919
corrupt prosecuting attorney and

2414
01:44:40,449 --> 01:44:36,169
apparently Jesse Ventura plays the

2415
01:44:43,060 --> 01:44:40,459
current governor Oh interesting and Tom

2416
01:44:45,250 --> 01:44:43,070
Sizemore plays the drunk I don't know

2417
01:44:48,299 --> 01:44:45,260
but certainly I would think there would

2418
01:44:51,759 --> 01:44:48,309
be art imitating life in many many ways

2419
01:44:53,020 --> 01:44:51,769
yeah okay but let's move on we got a

2420
01:44:56,229 --> 01:44:53,030
bunch of questions and we're starting to

2421
01:44:59,830 --> 01:44:56,239
run out of time here's one for me this

2422
01:45:02,560 --> 01:44:59,840
comes from Fast Eddie who is a fairly

2423
01:45:04,659 --> 01:45:02,570
recent addition to the forum podcast.com

2424
01:45:05,620 --> 01:45:04,669
family and I'll tell you what because

2425
01:45:08,649 --> 01:45:05,630
we're running out of time for this

2426
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:08,659
particular segment Fast Eddie and his

2427
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:11,119
father speedy Jack or something like

2428
01:45:14,469 --> 01:45:12,169
that I hope that's not what his

2429
01:45:17,409 --> 01:45:14,479
girlfriend calls him oh I hope not and

2430
01:45:20,340 --> 01:45:17,419
not in the wrong sense either with Jeana

2431
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:20,350
and Chris you're in the para cast

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2435
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2447
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listening to GC and live.com again

2448
01:46:11,340 --> 01:46:10,060
that's GC & live.com hi this is Ted

2449
01:46:13,380 --> 01:46:11,350
Anderson have you ever wondered why

2450
01:46:15,330 --> 01:46:13,390
banks stockbrokers investment advisors

2451
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won't talk about gold IRAs they've been

2452
01:46:19,380 --> 01:46:17,710
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2453
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industry won't recognize the value of

2454
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2455
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2456
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yet no word about IRAs if you would like

2457
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2458
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and parasites to non-detectable levels

2459
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and remove harmful chemicals such as

2460
01:47:11,550 --> 01:47:09,700
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2461
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2462
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2463
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:15,010
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2464
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:16,810
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2465
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:18,610
of charge with the purchase of a per key

2466
01:47:22,830 --> 01:47:20,770
light the Berkey guy is also offering is

2467
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:22,840
set of fluoride and arsenic filters for

2468
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:24,489
only $39.99

2469
01:47:28,380 --> 01:47:26,050
that's over 30 percent off the retail

2470
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:28,390
price call the burqa guy at one eight

2471
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:30,730
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2472
01:47:35,460 --> 01:47:32,890
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2473
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2474
01:47:40,410 --> 01:47:37,960
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2475
01:47:46,490 --> 01:47:40,420
Gober Keep Calm today

2476
01:47:54,530 --> 01:47:50,220
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2477
01:48:01,860 --> 01:47:54,540
standard of paranormal radio and now

2478
01:48:06,510 --> 01:48:01,870
here's Jane Steinberg Regina and Chris

2479
01:48:07,979 --> 01:48:06,520
we're doing a episode covering a little

2480
01:48:09,870 --> 01:48:07,989
bit shop Talk where we talk about the

2481
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:09,880
things we're doing plan to do or don't

2482
01:48:12,689 --> 01:48:11,110
care about doing and answer your

2483
01:48:13,650 --> 01:48:12,699
questions about us with Jean and Chris

2484
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:13,660
in the powertest

2485
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:17,170
in our previous segment Chris was about

2486
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:19,330
to present a question from Fast Eddie

2487
01:48:24,630 --> 01:48:21,610
and I think of somebody at an old

2488
01:48:27,660 --> 01:48:24,640
Corvette at a country highway racing at

2489
01:48:30,450 --> 01:48:27,670
130 miles an hour fast Eddie is that

2490
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:30,460
what you do what's the question well it

2491
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:33,130
could be Fast Eddie Felson from from

2492
01:48:37,919 --> 01:48:35,770
that Paul Newman movie the pool playing

2493
01:48:40,890 --> 01:48:37,929
movie and it was in the color of money I

2494
01:48:42,570 --> 01:48:40,900
think he was called Fast Eddie anyway he

2495
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:42,580
would like to hear about the more

2496
01:48:47,790 --> 01:48:44,410
compelling haunting cases that I've

2497
01:48:49,709 --> 01:48:47,800
worked on and I have been to some of the

2498
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:49,719
most haunted sites in America the Sallie

2499
01:48:58,520 --> 01:48:54,250
house and after some Kansas the hands

2500
01:48:59,870 --> 01:48:58,530
down was the spookiest place I have ever

2501
01:49:02,640 --> 01:48:59,880
investigated

2502
01:49:06,030 --> 01:49:02,650
especially the basement there I have

2503
01:49:08,580 --> 01:49:06,040
never felt the physical sensations that

2504
01:49:10,890 --> 01:49:08,590
I felt in that basement with my back to

2505
01:49:13,169 --> 01:49:10,900
whatever it was it was apparently making

2506
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:13,179
all of us the four of us down there feel

2507
01:49:17,820 --> 01:49:15,730
that way I was filming them in their

2508
01:49:19,110 --> 01:49:17,830
reaction to what was coming up behind me

2509
01:49:22,830 --> 01:49:19,120
and it was very difficult for me to hold

2510
01:49:26,370 --> 01:49:22,840
the shot but I did the three of them

2511
01:49:28,979 --> 01:49:26,380
were sick got sick too the couple was

2512
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:28,989
sick for two weeks the psychic was sick

2513
01:49:34,530 --> 01:49:32,290
for a week almost ten days I fortunately

2514
01:49:36,660 --> 01:49:34,540
I guess have a strong constitution I

2515
01:49:38,729 --> 01:49:36,670
could not move once I got out of that

2516
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:38,739
basement I felt like a wash rag and I

2517
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:41,050
couldn't move for 20 minutes so that

2518
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:42,250
would have to be the most compelling

2519
01:49:47,419 --> 01:49:46,690
case I had my first actual sighting of a

2520
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:47,429
ghost

2521
01:49:53,490 --> 01:49:50,650
this last March here in Jerome Arizona

2522
01:49:56,340 --> 01:49:53,500
which is called by the locals the most

2523
01:49:59,280 --> 01:49:56,350
haunted town in America and we had a 3d

2524
01:50:01,650 --> 01:49:59,290
camera going I fill me

2525
01:50:04,290 --> 01:50:01,660
me walking up to an empty hallway late

2526
01:50:06,150 --> 01:50:04,300
at night and behind camera was a big

2527
01:50:08,910 --> 01:50:06,160
mirror that I could see myself walking

2528
01:50:10,980 --> 01:50:08,920
up the hallway and a ghost is a shadow

2529
01:50:12,450 --> 01:50:10,990
person or a silhouette leaned out from

2530
01:50:14,370 --> 01:50:12,460
the wall like somebody opened the door

2531
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:14,380
and looked to see who had just walked by

2532
01:50:20,910 --> 01:50:17,170
and was about ten feet behind me and we

2533
01:50:24,180 --> 01:50:20,920
couldn't get the brand-new $22,000 3d

2534
01:50:26,970 --> 01:50:24,190
camera to initialize the footage for

2535
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:26,980
that seven minute shot that had been

2536
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:30,370
running and I was so excited I ran into

2537
01:50:36,090 --> 01:50:33,370
the director and one of the psychics

2538
01:50:37,380 --> 01:50:36,100
that we had there he had finished up an

2539
01:50:39,300 --> 01:50:37,390
interview with her and it just put the

2540
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,310
camera pointed down the empty hallway

2541
01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:41,760
where a lot of ghosts have been seen for

2542
01:50:46,650 --> 01:50:44,800
countless times over the years and I was

2543
01:50:51,060 --> 01:50:46,660
convinced that we had gotten the first

2544
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:51,070
ghost footage on 3d and boy was was I

2545
01:50:56,910 --> 01:50:53,290
upset when we couldn't initialize and

2546
01:51:00,390 --> 01:50:56,920
save into memory the footage onto the

2547
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:00,400
card and to this day he's still trying

2548
01:51:03,690 --> 01:51:02,290
to pull that out and hopefully at some

2549
01:51:05,190 --> 01:51:03,700
point he can find somebody that's gonna

2550
01:51:07,620 --> 01:51:05,200
be able to that footage is in there we

2551
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:07,630
just can't get it to initialize so you

2552
01:51:12,750 --> 01:51:10,090
know yeah I think of going to a computer

2553
01:51:14,130 --> 01:51:12,760
recovery shop um I think yeah he's

2554
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:14,140
planning on doing that he's actually

2555
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:18,850
working on a series of vignettes I think

2556
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:21,850
15 minute pieces for Nintendo and that

2557
01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:24,400
would have been the crowning shot of the

2558
01:51:29,070 --> 01:51:27,490
of the project and he's just finished up

2559
01:51:33,150 --> 01:51:29,080
the second part and this would have been

2560
01:51:36,180 --> 01:51:33,160
in the third part so he's still going to

2561
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:36,190
attempt to to pull that dad out so all

2562
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:38,530
hope is not yet lost but a good question

2563
01:51:44,220 --> 01:51:41,410
I've been to the manteno state Asylum in

2564
01:51:47,190 --> 01:51:44,230
Manteno Illinois that is a really spooky

2565
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:47,200
place it's condense ghost soup in there

2566
01:51:52,770 --> 01:51:49,840
there used to be hundreds of buildings

2567
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:52,780
now there's only a dozen or so and they

2568
01:51:56,490 --> 01:51:54,850
all seem to have moved into the last

2569
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:56,500
remaining buildings and boy I tell you

2570
01:52:03,980 --> 01:52:00,400
there's a roar of anguished spirits in

2571
01:52:07,890 --> 01:52:03,990
that place or whatever I I'm still a

2572
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:07,900
little bit I mean my jury is still out

2573
01:52:11,970 --> 01:52:10,090
when it comes to what actually haunted

2574
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:11,980
sites are what these energies and

2575
01:52:16,110 --> 01:52:13,090
entities potential

2576
01:52:17,820 --> 01:52:16,120
spirits or potential energies are I do

2577
01:52:20,100 --> 01:52:17,830
think there's something to it but I

2578
01:52:22,050 --> 01:52:20,110
don't think it's as simplistic and

2579
01:52:24,450 --> 01:52:22,060
knee-jerk as the ghost hunting shows

2580
01:52:27,390 --> 01:52:24,460
would have you believe I think it's a

2581
01:52:29,820 --> 01:52:27,400
lot more complex moving right along

2582
01:52:33,060 --> 01:52:29,830
this comes from Poulter worst who's one

2583
01:52:35,250 --> 01:52:33,070
of our most active posters and he has a

2584
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:35,260
number of questions here he lives in

2585
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:37,330
Germany and he wants to know if anyone

2586
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:39,760
has of us have heard of a UFO a

2587
01:52:44,490 --> 01:52:42,400
paranormal hotspot a windier area here

2588
01:52:46,890 --> 01:52:44,500
in my home country of Germany cuz I

2589
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:46,900
can't seem to find anything around here

2590
01:52:51,330 --> 01:52:49,930
it's all quite boring and normal or do

2591
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:51,340
you think I should be happy about that

2592
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:53,610
nothing not asked any questions well

2593
01:52:59,250 --> 01:52:56,320
poulter worst uh there are a couple of

2594
01:53:02,430 --> 01:52:59,260
spots in the Black Forest if you do your

2595
01:53:05,970 --> 01:53:02,440
research you'll find back in the 30s

2596
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:05,980
there was an alleged UFO crash there and

2597
01:53:12,930 --> 01:53:09,570
I have heard stories of sightings of

2598
01:53:15,060 --> 01:53:12,940
what appear to be hotspot zones in the

2599
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:15,070
Black Forest so you might want to check

2600
01:53:17,940 --> 01:53:15,850
that out

2601
01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:17,950
Jean have you heard of any particular

2602
01:53:23,670 --> 01:53:20,560
location specific spots in in Germany or

2603
01:53:27,210 --> 01:53:23,680
Austria Bavaria Black Forest is where I

2604
01:53:28,860 --> 01:53:27,220
hear about most yeah me too yes okay

2605
01:53:30,780 --> 01:53:28,870
here's a couple of questions for you

2606
01:53:34,140 --> 01:53:30,790
Jean from Paul to worst you say you've

2607
01:53:36,630 --> 01:53:34,150
never seen anything UFO eyes so like

2608
01:53:38,490 --> 01:53:36,640
really I mean not even the tiniest

2609
01:53:40,950 --> 01:53:38,500
nocturnal light manoeuvring in a way

2610
01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:40,960
that made you go what the or do you

2611
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:42,400
dismiss these kinds of sightings

2612
01:53:45,690 --> 01:53:43,930
categorically is probably nothing

2613
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:45,700
unusual good question

2614
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:47,410
I've seen a few lights in the sky that

2615
01:53:52,050 --> 01:53:48,970
turned out to be conventional I've been

2616
01:53:53,970 --> 01:53:52,060
around people who had sightings like for

2617
01:53:57,480 --> 01:53:53,980
example at the UFO convention I

2618
01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:57,490
sponsored back in 1975 at Valley Forge

2619
01:54:01,080 --> 01:53:58,480
Pennsylvania

2620
01:54:04,500 --> 01:54:01,090
well some people there said they saw a

2621
01:54:06,540 --> 01:54:04,510
UFO I was inside doing the business of

2622
01:54:10,440 --> 01:54:06,550
helping to run the convention I saw

2623
01:54:14,490 --> 01:54:10,450
nothing so I've been around events like

2624
01:54:16,500 --> 01:54:14,500
Waunakee Reservoir in New Jersey we went

2625
01:54:18,090 --> 01:54:16,510
out there within days of a UFO sighting

2626
01:54:21,210 --> 01:54:18,100
saw nothing I went to the Brown Mountain

2627
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:21,220
lights you know where they report these

2628
01:54:26,530 --> 01:54:23,650
lights over in North Carolina right on

2629
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:26,540
this hilly road over

2630
01:54:30,730 --> 01:54:28,370
this mountain over there and I wrote an

2631
01:54:32,530 --> 01:54:30,740
article about it for a magazine with

2632
01:54:35,020 --> 01:54:32,540
kind of a personal interest thing of the

2633
01:54:38,590 --> 01:54:35,030
fact that I don't like driving in hilly

2634
01:54:41,050 --> 01:54:38,600
roads and I had to go up a hill with my

2635
01:54:43,570 --> 01:54:41,060
little tiny Toyota and I didn't like it

2636
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:43,580
at all at first we thought that we were

2637
01:54:50,710 --> 01:54:48,530
seeing something that was strange turn

2638
01:54:53,380 --> 01:54:50,720
out to be a helicopter or an airplane or

2639
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:53,390
something nothing unusual when I was a

2640
01:54:58,840 --> 01:54:56,210
kid however I've mentioned this before I

2641
01:55:03,400 --> 01:54:58,850
used to have recurring nightmares where

2642
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:03,410
I'd see this large black thing racing at

2643
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:06,080
me in the distance and I wake up in a

2644
01:55:09,460 --> 01:55:06,730
cold sweat

2645
01:55:12,310 --> 01:55:09,470
and it happened for I don't know a few

2646
01:55:15,130 --> 01:55:12,320
years and stopped that's it in terms of

2647
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:15,140
UFO related experiences I think I've had

2648
01:55:21,310 --> 01:55:17,330
me unless that was some kind of

2649
01:55:23,710 --> 01:55:21,320
paranormal thing hold on one second well

2650
01:55:25,330 --> 01:55:23,720
gene you know you're like some people

2651
01:55:30,300 --> 01:55:25,340
that I've met over the years of my life

2652
01:55:33,790 --> 01:55:30,310
that appear to scare the phenomena away

2653
01:55:35,950 --> 01:55:33,800
so that's the reason then you scare me

2654
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:35,960
whitening the UFOs the UFOs see me and

2655
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:38,690
they start screaming well they did

2656
01:55:44,860 --> 01:55:42,530
scream in the other direction the UFOs

2657
01:55:47,830 --> 01:55:44,870
don't like me that's it right there the

2658
01:55:50,830 --> 01:55:47,840
UFOs do not like me and therefore they

2659
01:55:52,450 --> 01:55:50,840
stay away from me they say Oh him we are

2660
01:55:55,150 --> 01:55:52,460
going in the other direction we'll go

2661
01:55:56,650 --> 01:55:55,160
after Chris well how about this he has

2662
01:55:58,360 --> 01:55:56,660
kind of a follow-up question maybe

2663
01:56:00,100 --> 01:55:58,370
that's some other hard to explain

2664
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:00,110
experiences strange dreams that come

2665
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:00,490
true

2666
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:02,690
kids talking about something they should

2667
01:56:07,380 --> 01:56:05,090
know anything about like former lives or

2668
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:07,390
that sort of thing anything like that

2669
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:11,090
all right thank you for the next segment

2670
01:56:13,540 --> 01:56:12,770
I'll tell you something here the Whitley

2671
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:13,550
Strieber

2672
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:16,610
experience okay so we know that Whitley

2673
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:19,280
Strieber does not remember knowing me in

2674
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:21,890
the early 90s he doesn't want come in

2675
01:56:28,060 --> 01:56:25,330
the power cast and here's what happened

2676
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:28,070
he said during the course of one of his

2677
01:56:36,970 --> 01:56:31,250
lectures that he faced a very serious

2678
01:56:40,310 --> 01:56:36,980
intense tax audit by the IRS not more

2679
01:56:43,370 --> 01:56:40,320
than a few weeks later I had my own tax

2680
01:56:46,430 --> 01:56:43,380
encounter I survived more or less but

2681
01:56:49,700 --> 01:56:46,440
you know that happens at random so why

2682
01:56:53,149 --> 01:56:49,710
after whitley strieber mentions this at

2683
01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:53,159
a UFO meeting in New York why did I have

2684
01:56:56,990 --> 01:56:54,690
the same experience or a similar

2685
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:57,000
experience a few weeks later that's

2686
01:57:02,149 --> 01:56:59,280
number one I don't call it paranormal

2687
01:57:06,589 --> 01:57:02,159
just one of them things then we go back

2688
01:57:09,830 --> 01:57:06,599
to the 1970s my first wife Geneva and I

2689
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:09,840
are asleep in the living room rather

2690
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:12,090
than our normal bedroom I don't know why

2691
01:57:19,689 --> 01:57:16,800
and she wakes me up at that magical -

2692
01:57:23,359 --> 01:57:19,699
three o'clock hour and says I just saw a

2693
01:57:25,129 --> 01:57:23,369
water elemental and how answer the

2694
01:57:27,620 --> 01:57:25,139
question as to what might have happened

2695
01:57:30,570 --> 01:57:27,630
next or not with gene and Chris you're

2696
01:57:38,610 --> 01:57:30,580
in the para cast

2697
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2786
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2787
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2788
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2790
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2793
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why is it or wasn't it a water elemental

2794
02:02:09,530 --> 02:02:06,930
so the picture again with Gina and Chris

2795
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:09,540
and the power cast Geneva awakens me

2796
02:02:14,330 --> 02:02:11,850
early in the morning seeing this thing I

2797
02:02:16,940 --> 02:02:14,340
looked up I didn't have my glasses on

2798
02:02:19,340 --> 02:02:16,950
I'm very myopic I saw some kind of blur

2799
02:02:21,590 --> 02:02:19,350
in the distance maybe or maybe it was

2800
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:21,600
just our dog walking around that's it

2801
02:02:25,490 --> 02:02:22,050
folks

2802
02:02:27,350 --> 02:02:25,500
no more paranormal experiences okay well

2803
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:27,360
Poulter worst wants to know from Eugene

2804
02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:28,890
that you've said on a number of

2805
02:02:33,020 --> 02:02:31,110
occasions you've been on and off the UFO

2806
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:33,030
field quite a bit because it's quite

2807
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:35,730
easy to get disenchanted with so what

2808
02:02:40,520 --> 02:02:38,250
makes you come back every time I don't

2809
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:40,530
know insanity maybe it's funny with the

2810
02:02:43,700 --> 02:02:42,090
power cast talking with our former

2811
02:02:46,190 --> 02:02:43,710
co-host who used to be a regular guest

2812
02:02:49,370 --> 02:02:46,200
on my technology show the tech night out

2813
02:02:51,890 --> 02:02:49,380
live and somehow I learn he was

2814
02:02:53,830 --> 02:02:51,900
interested in UFOs and we said well we

2815
02:02:56,030 --> 02:02:53,840
do well with this show when you come on

2816
02:03:03,080 --> 02:02:56,040
maybe we should do a paranormal radio

2817
02:03:05,510 --> 02:03:03,090
show and that's how he got here well but

2818
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:05,520
in each particular case a lot of it was

2819
02:03:11,510 --> 02:03:07,890
sometimes getting into a financial bind

2820
02:03:14,180 --> 02:03:11,520
when we had that tax audit in the early

2821
02:03:16,310 --> 02:03:14,190
90s you know it took a lot of money to

2822
02:03:18,500 --> 02:03:16,320
pay an accountant I was publishing a UFO

2823
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:18,510
magazine didn't have enough money to

2824
02:03:22,130 --> 02:03:20,610
continue so sometimes it was financial

2825
02:03:25,070 --> 02:03:22,140
hate to get back to the money thing

2826
02:03:27,170 --> 02:03:25,080
and sometimes it was I had to do other

2827
02:03:29,030 --> 02:03:27,180
things so when I first got into radio I

2828
02:03:31,310 --> 02:03:29,040
dropped out of UFO research for a while

2829
02:03:34,130 --> 02:03:31,320
because I was busy establishing a new

2830
02:03:38,060 --> 02:03:34,140
career but Here I am it ran full circle

2831
02:03:41,270 --> 02:03:38,070
I'm back in radio back in the field well

2832
02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:41,280
speaking of money here's a question from

2833
02:03:48,770 --> 02:03:44,880
toxic surf who's been a forum the

2834
02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:48,780
podcast composter for about a year and a

2835
02:03:54,770 --> 02:03:53,130
half now and he said if you were to be a

2836
02:03:56,810 --> 02:03:54,780
conservator of Allah

2837
02:03:59,210 --> 02:03:56,820
large amount of money save five to ten

2838
02:04:01,970 --> 02:03:59,220
million dollars u.s. that had to be

2839
02:04:04,430 --> 02:04:01,980
funneled into UFO research where would

2840
02:04:07,310 --> 02:04:04,440
you put it or how would you spread it

2841
02:04:10,130 --> 02:04:07,320
around and yes Chris you get some for

2842
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:10,140
your research I'll answer that after you

2843
02:04:15,830 --> 02:04:14,010
do well okay so I would definitely have

2844
02:04:18,500 --> 02:04:15,840
people like Chris O'Brien especially

2845
02:04:21,050 --> 02:04:18,510
Chris O'Brien perform the investigation

2846
02:04:22,910 --> 02:04:21,060
that'll be one thing it wouldn't just be

2847
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:22,920
for paying the bills I will look to

2848
02:04:27,620 --> 02:04:26,370
people who have the dedication and the

2849
02:04:30,020 --> 02:04:27,630
knowledge and maybe talk to a few

2850
02:04:33,260 --> 02:04:30,030
scientists to get them involved in the

2851
02:04:36,110 --> 02:04:33,270
field and go on targeted investigations

2852
02:04:38,450 --> 02:04:36,120
you think about a few million dollars it

2853
02:04:40,250 --> 02:04:38,460
sounds like a lot of money and I agree

2854
02:04:41,810 --> 02:04:40,260
if you want to get state of the art

2855
02:04:44,750 --> 02:04:41,820
scientific equipment you want to pay

2856
02:04:48,020 --> 02:04:44,760
skilled investigators to ply their trade

2857
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:48,030
and do it I think still you'd want to be

2858
02:04:53,390 --> 02:04:50,730
able to carefully allocate the money and

2859
02:04:55,310 --> 02:04:53,400
I probably wouldn't want to be just a

2860
02:04:57,380 --> 02:04:55,320
sole arbiter of this I want Chris

2861
02:04:59,690 --> 02:04:57,390
involved and when the people that we

2862
02:05:01,730 --> 02:04:59,700
both trust involved to decide okay we

2863
02:05:04,610 --> 02:05:01,740
have this money we don't want to waste

2864
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:04,620
it it's a finite resource it's a

2865
02:05:10,010 --> 02:05:07,170
tremendous resource where do we go to

2866
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:10,020
get the most bang for the buck yeah I

2867
02:05:15,380 --> 02:05:11,970
agree and what I would do first of all

2868
02:05:19,370 --> 02:05:15,390
is set up a 501c3 a nonprofit

2869
02:05:21,380 --> 02:05:19,380
organization and somehow allow that

2870
02:05:25,610 --> 02:05:21,390
person to get a tax break for the money

2871
02:05:29,650 --> 02:05:25,620
that they're allocating to us and what I

2872
02:05:34,300 --> 02:05:29,660
would do is that 501 C 3 would be a

2873
02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:34,310
private but transparent research

2874
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:37,250
organization that would first of all

2875
02:05:45,530 --> 02:05:41,490
create a state-of-the-art monitoring

2876
02:05:48,770 --> 02:05:45,540
facility that would be mobile and since

2877
02:05:50,780 --> 02:05:48,780
you know we're parked here in a very

2878
02:05:53,150 --> 02:05:50,790
active area of North America here in the

2879
02:05:54,860 --> 02:05:53,160
southwest near the four corners this

2880
02:05:56,450 --> 02:05:54,870
would be a perfect spot to be able to

2881
02:05:57,650 --> 02:05:56,460
dispatch that vehicle at a moment's

2882
02:05:59,390 --> 02:05:57,660
notice we're talking about a

2883
02:06:02,330 --> 02:05:59,400
recreational vehicle maybe that could be

2884
02:06:04,730 --> 02:06:02,340
used as a home for people on the road

2885
02:06:07,370 --> 02:06:04,740
Coran go spend money with hotel rec but

2886
02:06:08,030 --> 02:06:07,380
I think a million dollars worth of gear

2887
02:06:12,770 --> 02:06:08,040
on

2888
02:06:14,180 --> 02:06:12,780
would also think here that leverage a

2889
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:14,190
small amount of that money to encourage

2890
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:16,890
other investors to get involved well

2891
02:06:20,030 --> 02:06:17,970
that does I think if you could raise

2892
02:06:22,490 --> 02:06:20,040
five or ten million why can't you raise

2893
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:22,500
a hundred million exactly and and but I

2894
02:06:28,420 --> 02:06:25,290
think it's important to also to set up

2895
02:06:32,650 --> 02:06:28,430
an educational and an instructional

2896
02:06:35,300 --> 02:06:32,660
division that would take promising young

2897
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:35,310
up-and-coming talent who are interested

2898
02:06:41,390 --> 02:06:37,770
in learning how to properly investigate

2899
02:06:44,420 --> 02:06:41,400
paranormal subject cases events etc and

2900
02:06:49,220 --> 02:06:44,430
have the most thorough training possible

2901
02:06:51,620 --> 02:06:49,230
and in hire the top people to actually

2902
02:06:53,510 --> 02:06:51,630
conduct the training or create training

2903
02:06:56,270 --> 02:06:53,520
materials that could be used by even

2904
02:06:58,400 --> 02:06:56,280
more people so that would be something

2905
02:07:03,620 --> 02:06:58,410
I'd be very interested in doing and also

2906
02:07:08,540 --> 02:07:03,630
identifying the three top hotspot window

2907
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:08,550
portal areas in North America and put in

2908
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:12,570
a double triangulated optical monitoring

2909
02:07:18,140 --> 02:07:16,290
system with gof you know iam detection

2910
02:07:20,620 --> 02:07:18,150
magnetometers grab-grab otama ters

2911
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:20,630
forward-looking infra-red

2912
02:07:27,260 --> 02:07:24,410
and-and-and and actively monitored 24/7

2913
02:07:29,690 --> 02:07:27,270
three of the hottest spot areas in North

2914
02:07:31,610 --> 02:07:29,700
America and as we're attempting to do in

2915
02:07:35,780 --> 02:07:31,620
the San Luis Valley right now so that

2916
02:07:39,110 --> 02:07:35,790
that would be my my suggestion also some

2917
02:07:43,010 --> 02:07:39,120
sort of educational grants for you know

2918
02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:43,020
trainees or you know young and

2919
02:07:46,100 --> 02:07:44,400
up-and-coming talent they could also

2920
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:46,110
help with field investigations for

2921
02:07:52,460 --> 02:07:48,930
instance and and have a program a

2922
02:07:56,210 --> 02:07:52,470
scholarship program for for these uh you

2923
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:56,220
know dedicated people so an answer to a

2924
02:08:01,430 --> 02:07:58,320
question I don't want to just save it

2925
02:08:04,310 --> 02:08:01,440
all for UFO research I think we need to

2926
02:08:07,460 --> 02:08:04,320
be a little bit more broad spectrum and

2927
02:08:09,670 --> 02:08:07,470
also be open to attendant phenomenon in

2928
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areas where UFOs are seen as well I

2929
02:08:14,900 --> 02:08:12,600
think the one thing here is that we

2930
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become what all these UFO organizations

2931
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couldn't become you know they just

2932
02:08:21,739 --> 02:08:19,920
keeper of the ETH flame like MUFON I can

2933
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tell you you know they live dedicated

2934
02:08:27,139 --> 02:08:24,689
and MUFON and they did get a crack at

2935
02:08:30,619 --> 02:08:27,149
some money from Robert Bigelow with lots

2936
02:08:34,609 --> 02:08:30,629
of strings attached but I would like to

2937
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see the proper UFO organization that

2938
02:08:40,009 --> 02:08:36,929
these organizations are a pro or an I

2939
02:08:42,609 --> 02:08:40,019
cap never were a place where serious

2940
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scientific research is being done and

2941
02:08:46,689 --> 02:08:45,359
proper educational programs so we can

2942
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send people out on the talk show circuit

2943
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now get the word out there yeah yeah an

2944
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outreach program like that with the

2945
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media set up a consulting arm that would

2946
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consult to Hollywood and and also

2947
02:09:03,649 --> 02:09:00,989
propose potential programming ideas that

2948
02:09:07,789 --> 02:09:03,659
that are the real thing and not this you

2949
02:09:10,639 --> 02:09:07,799
know approximation of reality as some of

2950
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the shows it tend to tend to be I think

2951
02:09:14,359 --> 02:09:12,449
that's a good question and I hope you're

2952
02:09:16,309 --> 02:09:14,369
serious about that if anyone out there

2953
02:09:18,979 --> 02:09:16,319
has an extra five or ten million dollars

2954
02:09:22,039 --> 02:09:18,989
that you would like to get give to a

2955
02:09:24,739 --> 02:09:22,049
good cause we've got we willing to talk

2956
02:09:27,109 --> 02:09:24,749
to you and you know it's honey I thought

2957
02:09:29,449 --> 02:09:27,119
of somebody I'll tell you about it off

2958
02:09:32,409 --> 02:09:29,459
the air Chris but I know somebody who

2959
02:09:36,769 --> 02:09:32,419
recently came into a huge sum of money

2960
02:09:39,229 --> 02:09:36,779
young man looking for a future and maybe

2961
02:09:42,609 --> 02:09:39,239
I can get him involved because I know he

2962
02:09:45,409 --> 02:09:42,619
has some what of an interest in UFOs

2963
02:09:47,989 --> 02:09:45,419
okay it's not somebody the well is

2964
02:09:49,039 --> 02:09:47,999
anybody anything that I'm actually going

2965
02:09:51,799 --> 02:09:49,049
to get this to work

2966
02:09:54,349 --> 02:09:51,809
but it is a very intriguing idea and

2967
02:09:56,989 --> 02:09:54,359
it's something Chris and I do want to

2968
02:09:59,329 --> 02:09:56,999
seriously discuss because I think it's

2969
02:10:00,679 --> 02:09:59,339
high time something like this is being

2970
02:10:02,869 --> 02:10:00,689
done there's so many millions of dollars

2971
02:10:06,499 --> 02:10:02,879
out there spent on useless political

2972
02:10:10,129 --> 02:10:06,509
causes thrown away for no reason tossed

2973
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into unusual enterprises like building

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second floor elevators for your cars

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there's got to be a positive way to

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realize this goal

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Eugene and Chris you're in the para cast

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and levies ruining your life are you

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tired of being afraid just to go to the

3038
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mailbox if this describes you then Dan

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Philip can help hi I'm Dan Pihl and I've

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been solving tax problems for more than

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made it possible to negotiate

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settlements with the IRS and I have

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helped thousands of people do exactly

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I can help you you know your IRS debt

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will not go away by itself but you don't

3049
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have to live in fear anymore new changes

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than ever before eliminate their debts

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once and for all there's no need for you

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to suffer another day with IRS debt call

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can help you eliminate wage and Bank

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levies release tax liens and negotiate a

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settlement with the IRS that will put

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your tax nightmare behind you forever

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help online.com that's tax help

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online.com do you think your home is

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toxic according to the Consumer

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found in the average home are connected

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to allergies birth defects cancer and

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psychological disorders the proven fact

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is we live in the most toxic environment

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in history yes

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toxins can be killers but there is

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something you can do detoxify your body

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or call eight seven seven three one five

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seven three one five eight six three

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eight invest in your health with the ion

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cleanse calm one of the most important

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decisions you will ever make

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02:15:01,330 --> 02:14:58,720
because so far that's the most

3088
02:15:02,830 --> 02:15:01,340
interesting idea Chris on the power cast

3089
02:15:05,620 --> 02:15:02,840
we're talking shop answering your

3090
02:15:07,330 --> 02:15:05,630
questions and this one if we can get a

3091
02:15:08,860 --> 02:15:07,340
big sum of money like five or ten

3092
02:15:11,320 --> 02:15:08,870
million what would we do with it

3093
02:15:13,270 --> 02:15:11,330
and I can think of a lot of things Chris

3094
02:15:15,160 --> 02:15:13,280
any more questions we've got a ton of

3095
02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:15,170
them Jean I don't think we get to all of

3096
02:15:20,980 --> 02:15:18,050
them Louie I'm making some headway here

3097
02:15:24,940 --> 02:15:20,990
this comes from ufology who's Canadian

3098
02:15:26,590 --> 02:15:24,950
poster up in Calgary Alberta one of my

3099
02:15:29,950 --> 02:15:26,600
favorite parts of the world here

3100
02:15:33,340 --> 02:15:29,960
especially in North America and he asks

3101
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:33,350
as a veteran in ufology Jane what advice

3102
02:15:37,240 --> 02:15:35,570
or encouragement would you give to young

3103
02:15:40,210 --> 02:15:37,250
people who are just getting interested

3104
02:15:42,070 --> 02:15:40,220
in UFOs that's part one and what advice

3105
02:15:44,680 --> 02:15:42,080
can you give to parents of young people

3106
02:15:46,660 --> 02:15:44,690
who have become interested in UFOs for

3107
02:15:48,580 --> 02:15:46,670
example are there any kids safe books a

3108
02:15:51,160 --> 02:15:48,590
parent could get for the 12 to 15 year

3109
02:15:53,410 --> 02:15:51,170
old what pitfalls should parents try to

3110
02:15:55,330 --> 02:15:53,420
help their kids avoid very good question

3111
02:15:57,760 --> 02:15:55,340
I have to think of my own experiences

3112
02:16:02,230 --> 02:15:57,770
and also my experiences as a parent we

3113
02:16:04,270 --> 02:16:02,240
hooks right I read just regular books

3114
02:16:05,980 --> 02:16:04,280
about UFOs the first book I read at 11

3115
02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:05,990
years old was won by major Donald Kehoe

3116
02:16:11,140 --> 02:16:08,480
so I didn't see something made

3117
02:16:13,650 --> 02:16:11,150
kid-friendly I think most UFO books

3118
02:16:16,390 --> 02:16:13,660
although some of the events may be

3119
02:16:20,140 --> 02:16:16,400
frightening in terms of the language

3120
02:16:22,120 --> 02:16:20,150
they tend to be PG friendly unless

3121
02:16:25,570 --> 02:16:22,130
you're a jazz singer being raped by

3122
02:16:27,070 --> 02:16:25,580
reptilians well there is that I can see

3123
02:16:29,470 --> 02:16:27,080
the exception but I think most of the

3124
02:16:32,860 --> 02:16:29,480
UFO books now in terms of getting

3125
02:16:35,890 --> 02:16:32,870
started I think let your curiosity be

3126
02:16:37,270 --> 02:16:35,900
the guide you know go online look at the

3127
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:37,280
things that are being written about UFO

3128
02:16:42,490 --> 02:16:40,330
research listen to the power cast okay

3129
02:16:45,490 --> 02:16:42,500
you know don't pay attention to those

3130
02:16:48,430 --> 02:16:45,500
wacky shows that are reality shows that

3131
02:16:50,740 --> 02:16:48,440
kind of imitate things like paranormal

3132
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:50,750
reality or something like that don't

3133
02:16:56,890 --> 02:16:53,599
look at shows that just cater to

3134
02:16:58,629 --> 02:16:56,900
the wacky side of the UFO mystery and

3135
02:17:01,000 --> 02:16:58,639
that's something you know you can't

3136
02:17:03,490 --> 02:17:01,010
really tell somebody to do that you have

3137
02:17:06,280 --> 02:17:03,500
to follow your own gut as far as parents

3138
02:17:08,169 --> 02:17:06,290
are concerned you know my parents did

3139
02:17:10,450 --> 02:17:08,179
nothing about the fact that was

3140
02:17:11,980 --> 02:17:10,460
interested in UFOs except saying I guess

3141
02:17:14,589 --> 02:17:11,990
he's gonna find something to do in his

3142
02:17:17,350 --> 02:17:14,599
life I didn't get any encouragement or

3143
02:17:19,810 --> 02:17:17,360
discouragement from it in terms of my

3144
02:17:22,660 --> 02:17:19,820
son he has read a small number of UFO

3145
02:17:24,459 --> 02:17:22,670
books a lot of science fiction and you

3146
02:17:27,370 --> 02:17:24,469
know I occasionally dropped the book in

3147
02:17:29,560 --> 02:17:27,380
his way to see if he'd react to it he

3148
02:17:32,140 --> 02:17:29,570
read the book by Kurt subtly on UFOs

3149
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:32,150
that he liked but he never really

3150
02:17:34,990 --> 02:17:33,650
pursued the subject and has no real

3151
02:17:36,700 --> 02:17:35,000
interest now he's still interested in

3152
02:17:39,310 --> 02:17:36,710
science fiction he's interested in

3153
02:17:42,820 --> 02:17:39,320
acting music he's a teacher in Madrid

3154
02:17:44,919 --> 02:17:42,830
Spain no interest in UFOs as a parent

3155
02:17:46,959 --> 02:17:44,929
though I think the guidance is like

3156
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:46,969
anything else is you want to make sure

3157
02:17:53,140 --> 02:17:49,610
your children are safe you want to allow

3158
02:17:55,089 --> 02:17:53,150
them to express themselves and also to

3159
02:17:58,570 --> 02:17:55,099
learn about the world and if their

3160
02:18:01,690 --> 02:17:58,580
interest navigates to UFOs again what

3161
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:01,700
you want to do is to allow them the

3162
02:18:05,440 --> 02:18:03,889
freedom you want to keep my off trouble

3163
02:18:08,379 --> 02:18:05,450
of course but allow them the freedom to

3164
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:08,389
discover the world and things beyond the

3165
02:18:12,970 --> 02:18:11,210
world good answer I agree I think the

3166
02:18:15,520 --> 02:18:12,980
parents should be up to speed as well so

3167
02:18:16,990 --> 02:18:15,530
when they're asked questions mommy daddy

3168
02:18:19,330 --> 02:18:17,000
what do you think about this that

3169
02:18:21,549 --> 02:18:19,340
they're able to discuss it intelligently

3170
02:18:23,589 --> 02:18:21,559
with their with their child in that case

3171
02:18:26,530 --> 02:18:23,599
my son Grayson had a pretty wacky father

3172
02:18:30,690 --> 02:18:26,540
so yeah well he was lucky he was lucky

3173
02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:30,700
do you feel lucky well do ya punkk

3174
02:18:36,459 --> 02:18:34,490
here's another one from ufology and we

3175
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:36,469
did address this a couple of shows ago

3176
02:18:41,709 --> 02:18:39,770
we had a brief mention but what is the

3177
02:18:45,910 --> 02:18:41,719
state of the UFO Hollis Hollis shame

3178
02:18:48,580 --> 02:18:45,920
right now Jean okay there was and is a

3179
02:18:51,459 --> 02:18:48,590
site called UFO watchdog calm run by

3180
02:18:53,709 --> 02:18:51,469
Royce Myers we had controlled that site

3181
02:18:55,540 --> 02:18:53,719
for about a year and the features of

3182
02:18:57,970 --> 02:18:55,550
that site is a UFO Hall of Fame for

3183
02:19:01,060 --> 02:18:57,980
people who do good work a UFO Hall of

3184
02:19:01,510 --> 02:19:01,070
Shame for people who do bad work simple

3185
02:19:04,990 --> 02:19:01,520
as that

3186
02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:05,000
obviously it's arbitrary now Roy's asked

3187
02:19:08,950 --> 02:19:07,490
to have the site reverted to him

3188
02:19:10,299 --> 02:19:08,960
that was his privilege I was the

3189
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agreement we made that if he ever wanted

3190
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it back he'd have it he concentrates

3191
02:19:18,640 --> 02:19:15,679
mostly on Sean David Morton who was kind

3192
02:19:20,799 --> 02:19:18,650
of one of these shyster medium types and

3193
02:19:22,330 --> 02:19:20,809
I'll leave it at that he had some kind

3194
02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:22,340
of run-in with the government over a

3195
02:19:27,669 --> 02:19:25,370
fake investments so that's his interest

3196
02:19:30,640 --> 02:19:27,679
I have asked him whether we could

3197
02:19:33,850 --> 02:19:30,650
repurpose that material for a new site

3198
02:19:36,490 --> 02:19:33,860
I'm working on with one of our forum

3199
02:19:38,860 --> 02:19:36,500
members but he hasn't responded so let's

3200
02:19:42,129 --> 02:19:38,870
just say this there is something under

3201
02:19:43,930 --> 02:19:42,139
construction that may be a successor to

3202
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:43,940
UFO watchdog but still under

3203
02:19:47,500 --> 02:19:45,290
construction I don't know where it's

3204
02:19:51,010 --> 02:19:47,510
gonna be taken I'll have to leave it at

3205
02:19:53,500 --> 02:19:51,020
that okay I do want to point out that

3206
02:19:57,300 --> 02:19:53,510
the Hall of Shame is considerably larger

3207
02:20:00,130 --> 02:19:57,310
than the Hall of Fame isn't that strange

3208
02:20:01,930 --> 02:20:00,140
what's unfortunate too is that we

3209
02:20:04,630 --> 02:20:01,940
developed a lot of new material for that

3210
02:20:07,660 --> 02:20:04,640
site but when Royce Myers took it back

3211
02:20:09,100 --> 02:20:07,670
he didn't include the database with all

3212
02:20:11,740 --> 02:20:09,110
that stuff so we have like a dozen

3213
02:20:14,620 --> 02:20:11,750
articles Hall of Shame Hall of Fame

3214
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:14,630
updates and the one person to love the

3215
02:20:18,910 --> 02:20:16,160
work on this is one of our forum members

3216
02:20:22,420 --> 02:20:18,920
he's not as active as he used to be but

3217
02:20:25,540 --> 02:20:22,430
he put in months and months of work into

3218
02:20:27,310 --> 02:20:25,550
this thing Michael Schuyler so hats off

3219
02:20:29,020 --> 02:20:27,320
to him he did great work and I'm really

3220
02:20:32,380 --> 02:20:29,030
sorry it's not really being allowed to

3221
02:20:34,810 --> 02:20:32,390
go online okay trying to cover all the

3222
02:20:37,150 --> 02:20:34,820
questions here here's another one from

3223
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:37,160
Paul to worst both tourists had actually

3224
02:20:41,260 --> 02:20:39,110
nine questions and I've only asked I

3225
02:20:42,880 --> 02:20:41,270
think three of them will ask another

3226
02:20:45,700 --> 02:20:42,890
couple here they're they're very good

3227
02:20:47,860 --> 02:20:45,710
and this one actually is pretty pretty

3228
02:20:49,750 --> 02:20:47,870
timely and appropriate based on a show

3229
02:20:50,980 --> 02:20:49,760
we have coming up what do you all think

3230
02:20:53,320 --> 02:20:50,990
about things like consciousness

3231
02:20:55,150 --> 02:20:53,330
near-death experiences and reincarnation

3232
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research and people like the lady in

3233
02:21:00,219 --> 02:20:57,500
Stevenson is there a chance you might

3234
02:21:03,090 --> 02:21:00,229
get someone like Jim Tucker Bruce

3235
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Grayson Gary Schwartz Jeffrey long

3236
02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:05,780
Melvin Morris etc for an interview and

3237
02:21:12,030 --> 02:21:07,520
funny you should ask that we're gonna

3238
02:21:15,420 --> 02:21:12,040
have PHS out water on who's a long time

3239
02:21:17,740 --> 02:21:15,430
pioneering NDE no death experience

3240
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investigator and researcher she's

3241
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written a number of books very

3242
02:21:23,830 --> 02:21:20,790
well-received

3243
02:21:27,740 --> 02:21:23,840
we're fortunate to have her on the show

3244
02:21:29,750 --> 02:21:27,750
coming up here later in November so be

3245
02:21:34,190 --> 02:21:29,760
sure to tune in for that one pole two

3246
02:21:36,500 --> 02:21:34,200
worst and again as I said at the top of

3247
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:36,510
the show Jean I think it would really be

3248
02:21:40,820 --> 02:21:38,010
good to open this show up a little bit

3249
02:21:44,120 --> 02:21:40,830
kind of but you know maybe pull out a

3250
02:21:46,700 --> 02:21:44,130
the odd UFO show or two but but start

3251
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concentrating on other aspects of the

3252
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paranormal consciousness studies

3253
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cutting-edge man-made UFO the advanced

3254
02:21:57,800 --> 02:21:54,960
exotic technology I mean there's a

3255
02:22:00,740 --> 02:21:57,810
number of subjects that we could get

3256
02:22:04,310 --> 02:22:00,750
into that aren't necessarily directly

3257
02:22:06,140 --> 02:22:04,320
you are related so this is an

3258
02:22:08,090 --> 02:22:06,150
interesting one again from Poulter West

3259
02:22:10,011 --> 02:22:08,100
has there ever been a UFO related or

3260
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paranormal claim that you dismissed

3261
02:22:14,900 --> 02:22:11,760
right away without even looking at the

3262
02:22:17,240 --> 02:22:14,910
alleged witnesses evidence if so did any

3263
02:22:19,070 --> 02:22:17,250
of the before mentioned later turn out

3264
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to be more interesting or valid than you

3265
02:22:23,570 --> 02:22:22,050
had thought I'll take that one gene

3266
02:22:25,220 --> 02:22:23,580
because I probably have been in a

3267
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position to have to deal with that I

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have at some point I think in you know

3269
02:22:38,660 --> 02:22:36,900
in the fall of 96 I I set my record for

3270
02:22:43,430 --> 02:22:38,670
the number of reports that I had in a

3271
02:22:45,950 --> 02:22:43,440
day it was 17 for about a four and a

3272
02:22:48,230 --> 02:22:45,960
half five year period I mean the spring

3273
02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:48,240
and falls around my neck of the woods

3274
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were just off off the charts in terms of

3275
02:22:55,310 --> 02:22:54,030
activity so I mean there are only so

3276
02:22:58,070 --> 02:22:55,320
many cases that I could actually

3277
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physically go out and cover so there

3278
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were some cases that I I logged the

3279
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information I interviewed them but you

3280
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know I just I didn't feel compelled

3281
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enough to go all the way out there and

3282
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make the you know 45-minute to two hour

3283
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drive to a site and there were a number

3284
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of them in terms of some that I actually

3285
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did investigate a little bit and then

3286
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determine right away that it was a waste

3287
02:23:25,610 --> 02:23:23,400
of time it was one woman who I felt was

3288
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delusional and had some psychological

3289
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issues she had an abduction claim that

3290
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just didn't make any sense to me so I

3291
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it end up not pursuing that particular

3292
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case

3293
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there are a lot of people out there that

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are in desperate need of having a

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special event or being special in their

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lives and and occasionally I think as

3297
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time progresses I think we're gonna see

3298
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more and more this because of the media

3299
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fascination with the subject we're gonna

3300
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have more and more people I think that

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that that misconstrue maybe experiences

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and can confabulate them into something

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high strange or actually outright are

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delusional and for whatever reason may

3305
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come out with some story that just is

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total bunk so hogwash but there's no

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hogwash coming here because you're

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is a small electronic device that makes

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the same light as a real television so

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from outside it looks like someone is

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home watching TV fake TV plugs in just

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hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

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[Music]

3410
02:29:05,159 --> 02:29:01,029
with gene and Chris and the power cast

3411
02:29:08,079 --> 02:29:05,169
we're doing our shoptalk 2012 show and

3412
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Chris was answering question about cases

3413
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he might have some airily dismissed from

3414
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the get-go I think we really need to

3415
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move it up here because we are in the

3416
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final segment we need to answer some

3417
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more questions yes we do one that

3418
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several people have asked is what's

3419
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going on in the San Luis Valley we have

3420
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had a camera up now for about nine

3421
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months at last count we have collected

3422
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700 terabytes of data about 200 of which

3423
02:29:39,489 --> 02:29:36,649
have been reviewed we finally have the

3424
02:29:43,359 --> 02:29:39,499
first camera has motion tracking and

3425
02:29:46,119 --> 02:29:43,369
record on on motion there has been some

3426
02:29:48,459 --> 02:29:46,129
activity burbling around I expected a

3427
02:29:51,099 --> 02:29:48,469
much more active fall in late summer

3428
02:29:53,289 --> 02:29:51,109
period we're right now going into the

3429
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time period when things are most active

3430
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in the valley if there's going to be any

3431
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activity in that year the fall and

3432
02:30:01,959 --> 02:29:58,999
spring tend to be the most active times

3433
02:30:03,779 --> 02:30:01,969
there have been as I mentioned on the

3434
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show there's an ongoing investigation

3435
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concerning flying humanoids which is

3436
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very unusual and very compelling there's

3437
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quite a number of you know alleged

3438
02:30:17,199 --> 02:30:14,839
sightings of this including two by law

3439
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enforcement officials separately one by

3440
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a post postal carrier another by the

3441
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local garbage man in this town some

3442
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people that have you know nothing to

3443
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gain by coming out and in and fessing up

3444
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to these sightings of what appears to be

3445
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a cross between Dracula flying around in

3446
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the Cape little Mothman thrown in there

3447
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the very first minute that the San Luis

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Valley camera was online and able to be

3449
02:30:50,889 --> 02:30:47,479
viewed over the Internet our chief

3450
02:30:52,359 --> 02:30:50,899
engineer Andrew Powe Freeman was the

3451
02:30:54,189 --> 02:30:52,369
first thing he did was want to try to

3452
02:30:55,749 --> 02:30:54,199
get oriented he when he was looking at

3453
02:30:58,179 --> 02:30:55,759
this image for the first time and so he

3454
02:31:01,090 --> 02:30:58,189
found the great sand dunes and zoomed in

3455
02:31:03,729 --> 02:31:01,100
on them and much to his surprise he he

3456
02:31:06,789 --> 02:31:03,739
saw to what appeared to be flying

3457
02:31:08,619 --> 02:31:06,799
humanoids kind of partially seated

3458
02:31:10,239 --> 02:31:08,629
almost like they were in a sitting

3459
02:31:10,540 --> 02:31:10,249
position with their legs dangling with

3460
02:31:13,719 --> 02:31:10,550
some

3461
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:13,729
apparatus on their back one after

3462
02:31:18,099 --> 02:31:15,290
another I think they were about a

3463
02:31:20,559 --> 02:31:18,109
hundred yards apart flew across the his

3464
02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:20,569
field of view he was so startled and

3465
02:31:25,360 --> 02:31:23,810
amazed he hadn't yet located the actual

3466
02:31:27,730 --> 02:31:25,370
button on the administrative control

3467
02:31:31,570 --> 02:31:27,740
where you can actually take a still JPEG

3468
02:31:33,010 --> 02:31:31,580
he hadn't set up recording video yet

3469
02:31:35,230 --> 02:31:33,020
because he literally just turned it on

3470
02:31:37,719 --> 02:31:35,240
for the first time but this was about

3471
02:31:39,849 --> 02:31:37,729
two and a half years ago right when the

3472
02:31:42,040 --> 02:31:39,859
beginning of a wave of these strange

3473
02:31:44,980 --> 02:31:42,050
flying humanoid reports started to

3474
02:31:46,960 --> 02:31:44,990
surface Thomas Pei is looking into this

3475
02:31:49,240 --> 02:31:46,970
I have Michael Giles is another

3476
02:31:51,790 --> 02:31:49,250
investigator who's our base station

3477
02:31:54,160 --> 02:31:51,800
operator in the valley is also looking

3478
02:31:57,250 --> 02:31:54,170
into these cases a number of groups have

3479
02:31:58,809 --> 02:31:57,260
tried to investigate from I think two

3480
02:32:01,090 --> 02:31:58,819
groups from Colorado Springs have been

3481
02:32:03,099 --> 02:32:01,100
doing some work this is an ongoing thing

3482
02:32:06,910 --> 02:32:03,109
as soon as we have something that we

3483
02:32:11,080 --> 02:32:06,920
feel is worthy of presenting publicly

3484
02:32:13,599 --> 02:32:11,090
I'm sure it's going to happen this is

3485
02:32:16,599 --> 02:32:13,609
just to kind of strange and bizarre for

3486
02:32:18,190 --> 02:32:16,609
us not to jump all over and try to get

3487
02:32:20,110 --> 02:32:18,200
to the bottom of saw Thomas has done

3488
02:32:23,349 --> 02:32:20,120
quite a bit of work interviewing people

3489
02:32:27,070 --> 02:32:23,359
there is allegedly the cell phone video

3490
02:32:29,230 --> 02:32:27,080
that the police officer actually was so

3491
02:32:31,540 --> 02:32:29,240
freaked out by his experience he erased

3492
02:32:33,610 --> 02:32:31,550
the cell phone footage but his neighbor

3493
02:32:35,380 --> 02:32:33,620
happened to have a video camera and when

3494
02:32:37,770 --> 02:32:35,390
he was showing her the footage she

3495
02:32:40,840 --> 02:32:37,780
zoomed in on the cell phone and and

3496
02:32:43,630 --> 02:32:40,850
allegedly you can see the the event now

3497
02:32:45,969 --> 02:32:43,640
I have a secure picture then so it's

3498
02:32:50,710 --> 02:32:45,979
yeah it's it's a it's a filming of a

3499
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:50,720
cell phone video clip basically so I you

3500
02:32:55,030 --> 02:32:53,090
know it there's too many reports that

3501
02:32:58,240 --> 02:32:55,040
are that are coming out of the woodwork

3502
02:33:01,690 --> 02:32:58,250
for this to be just a wave of delusional

3503
02:33:04,719 --> 02:33:01,700
people now that's a big guy flying in a

3504
02:33:06,670 --> 02:33:04,729
red cape yeah so we have a lot going on

3505
02:33:09,099 --> 02:33:06,680
the valley where we're trying to get our

3506
02:33:11,980 --> 02:33:09,109
skycam up in our second camera location

3507
02:33:13,570 --> 02:33:11,990
we're negotiating now with with a woman

3508
02:33:15,940 --> 02:33:13,580
that's a thousand feet above the valley

3509
02:33:18,580 --> 02:33:15,950
floor for one of the inner legs of our

3510
02:33:19,300 --> 02:33:18,590
inner triangle and near the sand dunes

3511
02:33:21,550 --> 02:33:19,310
ma'am

3512
02:33:23,910 --> 02:33:21,560
so we're gearing up for a second in in

3513
02:33:26,700 --> 02:33:23,920
Maine Skycam at the base

3514
02:33:28,290 --> 02:33:26,710
station to be put in this fall so hang

3515
02:33:29,550 --> 02:33:28,300
in there with us boy that five or ten

3516
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:29,560
million dollars we were talking about

3517
02:33:32,850 --> 02:33:31,090
before Jean sure could come in handy

3518
02:33:35,880 --> 02:33:32,860
I'll tell you right right now of course

3519
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:35,890
it's a problem of being able to generate

3520
02:33:40,740 --> 02:33:39,610
a stream a video stream online that most

3521
02:33:42,960 --> 02:33:40,750
people can see we're working out

3522
02:33:44,880 --> 02:33:42,970
different ways of doing that and we have

3523
02:33:48,480 --> 02:33:44,890
a couple of web developers working but

3524
02:33:51,420 --> 02:33:48,490
if anybody has experience in generating

3525
02:33:52,860 --> 02:33:51,430
video streams online you work with Apple

3526
02:33:54,780 --> 02:33:52,870
QuickTime you've worked with any of

3527
02:33:57,150 --> 02:33:54,790
these things we need to make it

3528
02:34:00,390 --> 02:33:57,160
something that people could see on a Mac

3529
02:34:02,730 --> 02:34:00,400
a PC a Linux computer and maybe even an

3530
02:34:05,280 --> 02:34:02,740
Android phone or an iPhone or an iPad

3531
02:34:07,320 --> 02:34:05,290
gonna be difficult we have about four

3532
02:34:09,360 --> 02:34:07,330
and a half minutes left of the show any

3533
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:09,370
more questions yeah and this is

3534
02:34:13,920 --> 02:34:11,650
something I was actually talking with

3535
02:34:17,190 --> 02:34:13,930
somebody earlier this morning about this

3536
02:34:21,090 --> 02:34:17,200
particular person Theresa Caputo and Rob

3537
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:21,100
Dell who is a not a very often poster

3538
02:34:25,200 --> 02:34:23,170
ought to form dr. Peric ascom but he

3539
02:34:27,510 --> 02:34:25,210
asked do you guys have an opinion of

3540
02:34:29,850 --> 02:34:27,520
Theresa Caputo the Long Island psychic

3541
02:34:31,679 --> 02:34:29,860
on The Learning Channel have you seen

3542
02:34:33,570 --> 02:34:31,689
the show I think she would be a great

3543
02:34:35,250 --> 02:34:33,580
guest she seems legit to me and I I

3544
02:34:37,860 --> 02:34:35,260
confess she has changed my views on the

3545
02:34:40,170 --> 02:34:37,870
afterlife I should say I'm from Long

3546
02:34:41,790 --> 02:34:40,180
Island I'm Italian so I may be partial

3547
02:34:44,820 --> 02:34:41,800
but nothing about her and her family

3548
02:34:47,760 --> 02:34:44,830
seems hoaxster faked and he does have a

3549
02:34:50,700 --> 02:34:47,770
link here to go see some of her I assume

3550
02:34:51,719 --> 02:34:50,710
YouTube videos um I was as I mentioned I

3551
02:34:53,850 --> 02:34:51,729
was just speaking with somebody today

3552
02:34:55,860 --> 02:34:53,860
who was very impressed with her she's

3553
02:34:59,370 --> 02:34:55,870
very entertaining she's very New York

3554
02:35:02,820 --> 02:34:59,380
Long Island you know the-the-the poofed

3555
02:35:05,820 --> 02:35:02,830
out hair and the outrageous kind of you

3556
02:35:07,770 --> 02:35:05,830
know nerve to walk up to people and say

3557
02:35:09,660 --> 02:35:07,780
I'm picking this up about somebody in

3558
02:35:11,940 --> 02:35:09,670
your life I've heard some descriptions

3559
02:35:15,270 --> 02:35:11,950
at some of the the the little vignettes

3560
02:35:17,730 --> 02:35:15,280
that it's reality television I assumed

3561
02:35:19,740 --> 02:35:17,740
everybody got that but my friend was

3562
02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:19,750
quite impressed with her in thinks that

3563
02:35:23,580 --> 02:35:22,450
she does have true abilities so this is

3564
02:35:27,270 --> 02:35:23,590
something I want to do a little research

3565
02:35:28,830 --> 02:35:27,280
on you know I'm not the biggest fan of

3566
02:35:32,300 --> 02:35:28,840
reality TV but she sounds like a real

3567
02:35:34,260 --> 02:35:32,310
character and her family does too so I

3568
02:35:36,480 --> 02:35:34,270
haven't personally seen how about you

3569
02:35:39,300 --> 02:35:36,490
gene have you seen this show no I have

3570
02:35:42,870 --> 02:35:39,310
we have been offered access to different

3571
02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:42,880
kinds of psychics on the power cast in

3572
02:35:46,830 --> 02:35:45,610
recent weeks and we're gonna look at

3573
02:35:49,890 --> 02:35:46,840
some of these people and see if there's

3574
02:35:51,240 --> 02:35:49,900
somebody who at least has a fascinating

3575
02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:51,250
tale to tell

3576
02:35:55,830 --> 02:35:53,680
well how about of this gene here's

3577
02:35:56,969 --> 02:35:55,840
here's a here's a scoop for you that I

3578
02:35:59,219 --> 02:35:56,979
haven't even talked to you about I do

3579
02:36:01,890 --> 02:35:59,229
have a psychic that would like to come

3580
02:36:04,200 --> 02:36:01,900
on I have worked with her I actually did

3581
02:36:06,930 --> 02:36:04,210
a training video with her she has real

3582
02:36:09,060 --> 02:36:06,940
ability in my estimation

3583
02:36:10,980 --> 02:36:09,070
and what I'd like to do is set up a

3584
02:36:13,920 --> 02:36:10,990
taping where we can have some of our

3585
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:13,930
forum posters call in and have her do a

3586
02:36:20,130 --> 02:36:17,950
reading live during the taping that we

3587
02:36:22,110 --> 02:36:20,140
can then broadcast at our Sunday night

3588
02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:22,120
slot what do you think of that idea I

3589
02:36:25,469 --> 02:36:24,250
think that's an excellent idea and let's

3590
02:36:28,680 --> 02:36:25,479
hope we can make it happen maybe in

3591
02:36:30,870 --> 02:36:28,690
November yes work this out with the

3592
02:36:33,840 --> 02:36:30,880
understanding from your friend the

3593
02:36:35,490 --> 02:36:33,850
psychic that there will be no advance

3594
02:36:40,830 --> 02:36:35,500
disclosure who's calling in we'll have

3595
02:36:43,380 --> 02:36:40,840
no control of that in strategically or

3596
02:36:46,110 --> 02:36:43,390
call them which might be easier we will

3597
02:36:48,450 --> 02:36:46,120
call them at the appointed time and have

3598
02:36:50,250 --> 02:36:48,460
them interact and we'll see what happens

3599
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:50,260
you know yeah I think that's a really

3600
02:36:56,100 --> 02:36:54,010
good idea it's her idea to do this

3601
02:36:57,690 --> 02:36:56,110
I did mention when I was doing the

3602
02:36:59,880 --> 02:36:57,700
training film of course I did mention

3603
02:37:01,740 --> 02:36:59,890
the para cast and she said well man who

3604
02:37:04,290 --> 02:37:01,750
it'd be a do you have psychics I said

3605
02:37:06,810 --> 02:37:04,300
well no we should and she said I'd love

3606
02:37:10,620 --> 02:37:06,820
to do it so I think this is a great idea

3607
02:37:14,510 --> 02:37:10,630
she is she's really amazing she died I

3608
02:37:17,550 --> 02:37:14,520
feel she she has a judge who gift and

3609
02:37:19,980 --> 02:37:17,560
this would be great to to do and it

3610
02:37:22,469 --> 02:37:19,990
would be a chance for our forum posters

3611
02:37:24,780 --> 02:37:22,479
and our show listeners to get directly

3612
02:37:26,969 --> 02:37:24,790
involved and interact with us and in our

3613
02:37:28,890 --> 02:37:26,979
guests and maybe the following week

3614
02:37:31,410 --> 02:37:28,900
bring on those people who had readings

3615
02:37:33,360 --> 02:37:31,420
and get their assessment of it to think

3616
02:37:35,340 --> 02:37:33,370
you know what the great idea demonstrate

3617
02:37:37,380 --> 02:37:35,350
true psychic abilities is it a cold

3618
02:37:40,410 --> 02:37:37,390
reading where they use their intuition

3619
02:37:42,510 --> 02:37:40,420
and a few psychological tricks to get

3620
02:37:44,790 --> 02:37:42,520
the information what could have happened

3621
02:37:47,130 --> 02:37:44,800
we'll have to find out as you see with

3622
02:37:48,719 --> 02:37:47,140
this kind of episode we have so many

3623
02:37:49,921 --> 02:37:48,729
questions in the hopper we have a few

3624
02:37:51,810 --> 02:37:49,931
questions that we're not

3625
02:37:54,241 --> 02:37:51,820
going to be able to answer I'm sorry

3626
02:37:56,581 --> 02:37:54,251
about that maybe during the introduction

3627
02:37:58,291 --> 02:37:56,591
of future shows we'll go through a few

3628
02:38:00,151 --> 02:37:58,301
of the questions that weren't asked and

3629
02:38:01,291 --> 02:38:00,161
we'll go through them and see if we can

3630
02:38:03,690 --> 02:38:01,301
come up with answers we'll make up

3631
02:38:05,970 --> 02:38:03,700
something on the spot we always do okay

3632
02:38:08,881 --> 02:38:05,980
now you can find all the things we do

3633
02:38:10,890 --> 02:38:08,891
over at the para cast comm we have the

3634
02:38:13,321 --> 02:38:10,900
forums where you ask your questions or

3635
02:38:16,621 --> 02:38:13,331
interact with other members at forum dot

3636
02:38:18,651 --> 02:38:16,631
^ cast comm on Twitter we are the power

3637
02:38:21,810 --> 02:38:18,661
cast if you want to send us a tweet or

3638
02:38:24,060 --> 02:38:21,820
follow us we're also on Facebook there's

3639
02:38:26,251 --> 02:38:24,070
a power cast fan club actually two of

3640
02:38:27,690 --> 02:38:26,261
them and I still hope that we'll have

3641
02:38:30,930 --> 02:38:27,700
some advice from our members how to

3642
02:38:33,991 --> 02:38:30,940
combine two fan clubs into one will be

3643
02:38:35,491 --> 02:38:34,001
more fun Chris where do we find you well

3644
02:38:37,140 --> 02:38:35,501
our strange planet is still under

3645
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:37,150
development as Jean mentioned we're

3646
02:38:42,151 --> 02:38:39,280
gonna really make an effort to get the

3647
02:38:44,640 --> 02:38:42,161
the live camera feed up again it's our

3648
02:38:47,190 --> 02:38:44,650
streams planet calm and as always with

3649
02:38:49,381 --> 02:38:47,200
Jean Steinberg and Chris O'Brien you

3650
02:38:55,850 --> 02:38:49,391
ladies and gentlemen are in the para

3651
02:39:02,280 --> 02:38:59,370
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3652
02:39:05,270 --> 02:39:02,290
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3653
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:05,280
presentation of making the impossible